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Old 01-16-2006, 09:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default How 2 Rolling Harrier

Anyone have any tips on doin it,videos,setup, etc.
I just keep on praticing and very little improvement.
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Old 01-16-2006, 10:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I have the kickass 3DU vid on my server. PM me for a link

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Old 01-20-2006, 11:05 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: How 2 Rolling Harrier

its all in the timing man you gotta keep it straight and stalled and lots of practice.
heres a vid that includes some rolling harriers among other things with stick movements.

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Old 01-20-2006, 11:26 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Its all rythm until youve mastered it
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Old 01-21-2006, 01:10 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I found doing point rolls helped while trying to learn. All of a sudden it will happen. Don't worry about high alpha at first. just try to complete the circle even if you have to do 10 rolls to get around.
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Is that video of G3? Can I add that plane to my G3? That thing rocks! Please let me know if you can help me add that plane to my G3. Thanks
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Quote: Originally Posted by analog_boy
its all in the timing man you gotta keep it straight and stalled and lots of practice.
heres a vid that includes some rolling harriers among other things with stick movements.

http://www.flyinggiants.com/gallery/...o=1021&cat=504
Is that video of G3? Can I add that plane to my G3? That thing rocks! Please let me know if you can help me add that plane to my G3. Thanks
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Default Re: How 2 Rolling Harrier

Like others said, it's a rythm thing. Alot of people find it easier to watch the tail while doing it, so you can see what control inputs you are giving. That'll help on late VS early problems. AFPD helps alot, and doing IMAC style rolling circles helps alot too.

For the rythm part, just remember this:

- Rolling to the right: Left, Down, Right, Up.
- Rolling to the left: Right, Down Left, Up.

You'll probably find that the airplane will want to turn, as opposed to flying a straight line. Just let it do that. You can work on putting the plane where you want after you've learned to stay one step ahead of the plane.
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yeh i tried point rolls first, then progressed to slow rolling circles and have gotten to the stage where i can do a rolling harrier fairly well, still needs work though.
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A perfectly mastered harrier roll requires precise throttle inputs as it rolls to knife edge to maintaint the right angle of attack and constant speed. If you want to see rolling harriers at their best, watch Mark Leseberg. I think he may be even better than the Godfather himself.
You can go to www.aero-works.net, click on the Extra 260, and scroll down to the video link and click. It is a video of Leseberg wringing out that plane, and there are a lot of harrier maneuvers in it. If you turn the volume up, you may be able to hear him blipping the throttle every time he approaches knife edge...
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Ewww its G3 hahaha nice video analog. Ya its all about timing and throttle.it will come to you trust me..dont get frustrated.
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I have been trying to master the rolling harrier for a long time now! I have to gotten to where I can do it about 75% of the time. I first mastered the rolling circle. If you can't do that then the rolling harrier will seem impossible. The biggest break through for me was to watch and concentrate on the tail. I found it is easier to keep your timing right and keep the control surfaces going in the right direction if you actually watch them. At first don't get to worried that if you don't watch the nose that it will fall cause you will still notice when it falls and if you can't get the surfaces going the right way then you can't keep it up anyways. Once you get the surfaces going in the right direction its all about throttle control just like in a regular harrier. A good harrier roll will take constant throttle adjustment. Finally, one of the other best things you can do is master the harrier. You need to be able to harrier all the time, non stop, or you will never be able to add a roll to it.
Well, I hope I helped some, I am not a master like some of these guys.
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