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Old 05-29-2007, 01:58 PM   #85 (permalink)
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Default Re: Shot down - it finally happened to me.

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So my other 50% part is that the RX failed intermittently and drove the servos hard over. Both causes give the same result.
Possibly he didn't have his crystals taped in verry good



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Old 05-29-2007, 02:00 PM   #86 (permalink)
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Default Re: Shot down - it finally happened to me.

Yo Sleepy,

We met briefly the Nall on Thursday night. Sorry to hear what happened and that your kids have to witness such carnage.

It sounds like you handled the situation w/ class and I'm sure that isn't easy.

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Old 05-29-2007, 03:15 PM   #87 (permalink)
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There is a fine line between Class and a 5000 dollar invested,,, especially when it was so preventable,,
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Old 05-29-2007, 03:41 PM   #88 (permalink)
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Guys the deal is that I didn,t witness the guy first hand. It,s all circumstantial evidence . So it,s my word against his. And in no court in the US will that stand up. so... I move on.
Will I be nice to the guy if I see him...You bet. I be sickly nice... let him stew in guilt... muhahahahahahahahahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aa .

But, I fly to enjoy myself and getting upset for too long defeats the purpose. I will skip lunch, and save! Get a new Panzl, and the world will be right!
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Old 05-29-2007, 04:06 PM   #89 (permalink)
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It sure stinks when you "think" you got shot down but you never know for sure. I lost a 25% h9 cap years ago and wound up dumping it in a woods the best I could because I didn't want it in a roof top on the other side of that woods. As soon as this happens I notice a car pulling up the clubs long driveway. They have a trainer in the back that I can see and they never even get out, just turn around and drive away. I wasn't to happy. Probably a new club member that never showed up again.
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Old 05-29-2007, 04:45 PM   #90 (permalink)
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I ask around basically everyone if they are on my frequency, I am not satisfied with the pin alone, this also tells me who is on my frequency and everytime I go to fly I remind that person to be careful.
Hopefully with the new 2.4 Ghz we will not have this problem anymore.
No doubt. Snap and I fly on the same frequency and constantly communicate when we fly togethor. Snaps alertness actually saved my airplane one time when I took off thinking I still had the pin, he looked before he turned on and realized I was flying. Definetly a bone-head move on my part, but definetly made me realize, anyone can make a mistake. Good think I had someone like Snap on my frequency so that it didnt become one heck of a costly mistake.
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I move on. Will I be nice to the guy if I see him...You bet. I be sickly nice... let him stew in guilt...
And that's the way a TRUE sportsman / modeler handles the situation!

*IF* this guy did it... in due time he'll get what's coming to him. Karma is a BITCH!

Sleepy did exactly what he should have. Packed it up, went home, vented (in a constructive manner), drank a few cold ones and moved on. Hats off to you. Hopefully others will learn from your experience.

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Old 05-29-2007, 07:27 PM   #92 (permalink)
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Sorry about your loss Sleepy !!

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at 50' every single surface on my plane goes full deflection.. no response, even my fiber optic throttle kill won't work
If this is a TRUE description of what happened, it's very unlikely it was a shoot down.

The other guy would have to have the mixing very similar to yours (ie. if your second aileron is on ch.6, he also has to have something mixed into the 6th channel) etc.

On top of that, he would have to hold all the sticks deflected fully while shotting you down. In the "accidental turn-on" scenario, everything should stay around neutral if his signal took precedence.

I just don't see that happening, unless it was on purpose. Also, if he has the Tx antenna down and yours is fully extended, it just won't be able to take over your Rx.

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Old 05-29-2007, 07:34 PM   #93 (permalink)
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If this is a TRUE description of what happened, it's very unlikely it was a shoot down.

The other guy would have to have the mixing very similar to yours (ie. if your second aileron is on ch.6, he also has to have something mixed into the 6th channel) etc.

On top of that, he would have to hold all the sticks deflected fully while shotting you down. In the "accidental turn-on" scenario, everything should stay around neutral if his signal took precedence.

I just don't see that happening, unless it was on purpose. Also, if he has the Tx antenna down and yours is fully extended, it just won't be able to take over your Rx.
OK... so it wasn't shot down then... it was a complete radio failure. But just for a second. (which is possible I guess)

Either way... my plane is dead... I have a suspisious guy that left the scene, and a pile of radio gear that I'm afraid to ever use again. (Yes its going in for inspection... but MAN were talking WEEKS to get it all back!!)

So either way... My black cloud remains.

Also.. this happened in .0124 of a second.. so my perception of all surfaces going complete full over may be skewed a bit... but they did do the funky chicken..and I had ZERO control of the plane AND my optic kill did not work at all... so something happened.

I'm sure most of you know I'll be the first dude to say I'm not a pro pilot, and would also be more than willing to accept fault if I screwed up.. but unfortunately this is not the case. In fact.. I wish I had messed up a 3' KE pass and peppered the whole runway with the plane instead of this.. at least I would have felt that I earned the crash... Oh welll... it really dosen't matter at this point...
WHat matters is getting something ready to fly... Ohio's flying season is not ThAT LONG!!!
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That sucks man, I'm so out of the loop I had no idea this had happened.

Your attitude is the correct one. No use crying over spilt milk for days, just move on and keep flying.
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Should I write ODE to the PANZL #2?
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Damn dude! I feel terrible for you. I just finished reading this entire thread. A whole lot of good opinions and your attitude is awesome. I so wish you flew at my field. You're a class act Sleepy! See you soon my friend.
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