axi or hacker out runner

[KatManDEW]

	Quote: Originally Posted by BaldEagel
	To get back to the original question, for foamies the Axi's, they seem to be more efficient in the lower ranges of motors compard to the Hackers, when you start to get above the 50 - 60 range of IC equivilants then the Hackers come into thier own, they start to run out at the 45 - 50cc petrol engine sizes, and start to use multiple motors and gearbox's at this level its Pletenberg that come into the frame. All in my opinion Mike

I've used many types of motors on foamies. I now have a half dozen Hacker A10's. I like them the best for power to weight, and they're considerably cheaper than the Axi's.

Also: Hacker makes motors for much bigger than 45 - 50cc equivalents. Check out the Hacker A100 to A200.

[baxternick]

I have never owned an axi, or had the chance to see one in action, but I did get a hacker 20-20l for christmas and love it. We have guys at the flying the same DW foamy as me with a himax, and a rimfire and the hacker eats them for lunch and is lighter. I was in your shoes back before christmas making my wife a list and after seeing a few of the hackers in a variety of sizes flying I was sold. Everyone said nothing but great things about them. I think both are quality products and you can't go wrong either way.

[BaldEagel]

	Quote: Originally Posted by KatManDEW
	I've used many types of motors on foamies. I now have a half dozen Hacker A10's. I like them the best for power to weight, and they're considerably cheaper than the Axi's. Also: Hacker makes motors for much bigger than 45 - 50cc equivalents. Check out the Hacker A100 to A200.

I have used and have AXI's Hacker's and Pletenberg motors, I am just quoting my personnal experience, from 30" foamies too 2.2M Composite aircraft.

Mike

[KatManDEW]

	Quote:
	I have used and have AXI's Hacker's and Pletenberg motors

Me too. But I sold most of my Axi's a few months ago. My personal experience ranges from 14 inch foamies to 2.6 meter electrics.

For 30-32 inch foamies, I think the Hacker A10's perform a little better than the Axi's, and for lightweight F3P foamies, the Hacker A10-15S weighs substantially less than the smallest available Axi, and the Hacker is also substantially cheaper. That's a win win situation. The weight and price are facts, not personal preference.

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	Hackers come into thier own, they start to run out at the 45 - 50cc petrol engine sizes, and start to use multiple motors and gearbox's at this level its Pletenberg that come into the frame.

The Hacker A100, A150, and A200 are single motor, gearless solutions for planes up to and over 150cc size.

[Huckin' it]

Best experience with the Axis...Worth the extra money!!!

[casey g]

axi for sure

[scalefreak]

I like Hacker and AXi motors equally. The AXi 2208/34 is the perfect foamie motor. VERY long flight times. The only thing I don't like about Hackers is that they are noisier than AXi, but I have no preference. They both have their place and work well.

[cjcyclesrc]

Axi

I have run my 2212/26 on:

1. Fliton Prodogy ~20 oz
2. Copperhead Yak 22oz
3. Airfoilz Yak ~17oz

All of these were on Thunderpower 1320's and APC 11x5.5 E. I tried an assortment of props and the 11x5.5E seemed to be the best match. When I compared the temps of the motor with different props and the 11x5.5E run 10-20deg. cooler than a 10x3.8SF. The motor wasn't overpowered on the Copperhead, but I could hover a complete battery and everything stayed cool. I ended up with it on a Airfoilz Yak which is a great match with the thunder power 1320's
I also have a 2208/34 on a Wades Rc Avenger Biplane. `10oz, 10x5E, Dualsky 620 mah.

I would say a hacker has a slight power advantage, but you pay for it with heat and shorter flight times.

[MattyMatt]

I run a hacker 20-20L with a TB 16 and TP 1320's on an Insane YAK... I run 12-15 minutes pretty easily and really like the APC 10X5 E prop vs the slow flyer.