GP 27% EDGE

[Super08]

Tim that just blows me away, I damn near fell on the floor. I have never seen Monokote details cut or applied so fine. did you have to use a transfer material to stick it to before removing the backing?

[Mr. Nobody]

No transfer stuff.

Just use an X-Acto to pick each piece off my sheet, then lay it down. You can see the alignment lines put down with a straightedge and a Parma panel pen. Washes off with alcohol when it's done.

I spray most of the larger pieces with Windex before laying them down. That way I can slide them into perfect position, then use a small piece of soft balsa to squeegee out the Windex. Then iron it down the next day (or the day after that).

Here's a finished pic at an open house of a local R/C club.

Unfortunately, after I landed, while on the runway, a guy with a turbine ran into my plane. His wing and tip tank ripped into the bottom of my fuse. Hacked up one of my gear legs and ripped apart the bottom of the plane. It makes me sick to my stomach, but I'm sure the jet guy feels the same.

I extracted his tip tank from the bottom of my fuse and handed it back to him.

I don't know who'se fault it was. I called "comin' in" and was already down and taxiied almost all the way back to my self when he hit me head-on. He said he signled landing too, but neither of us heard each other because they were blasting music over loud speakers the whole day. I didn't have a spotter - should have been manditory, would have helped, but not using a spotter was my own fault. Don't know if he had a spotter or not.

Crap. Gotta get the MonoKote iron and paint gun back out.

Well, here are some finished pics.

[Super08]

Oh man after all the work and late nights you put in to get it done. As you led up to what happened all I could think was no, no ,no.

[cmcleary]

Plane looks great with that color scheme. I have GP 27% Extra with DA-50. Power is great, but the airplane does not seem to be designed for extreme 3D. More for IMAC maneuvers. How does the Edge fly? I also had the GP Cap 232 which flew great with a brillelli 46 until I was flying too low and ran out of gas. You know what happened next. I was thinking about getting the Edge but found someone with the GP Sukhoi for sale cheap and I picked it up. The Sukhoi flies even better than the Cap with the same brillelli motor. I am also using futaba 3305's which work great and have had no problems with.

[Mr. Nobody]

	Quote: Originally Posted by cmcleary
	Plane looks great with that color scheme. I have GP 27% Extra with DA-50. Power is great, but the airplane does not seem to be designed for extreme 3D. More for IMAC maneuvers. How does the Edge fly? I also had the GP Cap 232 which flew great with a brillelli 46 until I was flying too low and ran out of gas. You know what happened next. I was thinking about getting the Edge but found someone with the GP Sukhoi for sale cheap and I picked it up. The Sukhoi flies even better than the Cap with the same brillelli motor. I am also using futaba 3305's which work great and have had no problems with.

Why do you feal the Extra was designed more for IMAC not so much 3D?

To me, I love flying the Edge, but I've got only about four or five flights on it. Still taking it easy with a new engine and plane. Planned to fly two gallons through it this weekend (and the weather was absolutely perfect for it), but I ended up going to an open house for a new club in the area and it was kind of a zoo, so not a great situation for burning lots of fuel. Then another plane and I collided on the runway, so until I make my repairs, the Edge is down.

The Edge, same as the Extra is very "honest." Won't do anything un asked or unexpected. Flies slowly fine and lands well even with a big gas engine like the DL.

I haven't flown the others in the series - just my Extran and the Edge.

Yea, the 3305's are fine - not real precise, but metal gears and enough torque.

Don't know if I've answered your questions. I can say the Edge needs much less (none?) elevator for pitch coupling (in KE). Also doesn't need as much down elevator (than the Extra) when flying inverted.

[cmcleary]

I was using hitec 5645's for ailerons and elevators which seemed to be VERY SLOW. I swapped out the new 7955's for the ailerons about a month ago and just ordered two more for the elevators. Rolls are very crisp and precise now and I hope when I change the elev. servos the plane will be more responsive. I think I just had the wrong servos for the application. By the way, how did you prep and paint the fiberglass cowl? I have had problems in the past with the paint chipping and cracking on fiberglass cowls that I have painted. There is a flex additive that is used in body shops to paint fiberglass and urethane car bumbers but I have not seen any one use it for model airplanes.

[Mr. Nobody]

I've painted several ARF fiberglass parts in the past - cowls, wheel pants, etc. Usually I sand all the color off until I'm just down to the primer. In the past I used Top Flite LustreKote for the colors, then used PPG Omni clear over the LustreKote. This time, for the Edge, I just sanded the cowl until all the hard lines between the colors were smooth. I went automotive all the way. I used Omni epoxy primer, then Omni base coat, followed by clear. But I screwed up. I thought you were supposed to add hardner to the base coat (the black and the white), so it took FOREVER for it to harden (week or two). But after I put on the clear (which DOES use hardner!) all was fine.

When inquiring to my "paint buddy" (Mike Hilderbrand - probably screwed up his name) he told me the base colors don't use hardner.

So today, when I had to re coat my wheel pants and gear (after the accident), I applied the black base coat without any hardner - just reducer. NOW we're talkin'! Hardened right up and I wet-sanded it in about an hour, then applied the clear right away. BEAUTIFUL!

I also painted my 3-blade carbon spinner today--three coats of white, then the clear--all in one day!

Well, that's my paint story. With all that, never had any sticking problems--I usually go down to 400-grit between coats.

The cowl and wheel pants on the "Patty Wagstaff" in the photo attached was painted with LustreKote, then Omni clear.

[Mr. Nobody]

Here's some crappy pics I took today of my finished Edge.

Love the 3-blade prop. This thing is a rocket ship!!!

I got some professional pics coming soon. Maybe I'll upload those later.

Okay then.

[cmcleary]

Well the Sukhoi is no more after this weekend but I just ordered a GP Edge 540. I really like your trim scheme but I am too lazy to strip and recover my plane. No, not really, but I have a few other planes I want to finish and I want to get as much stick time as possible before winter sets in. By the way, what engine are you using in your edge? I was thinking about using the 3mm TOC engine from airwild. I would love to get my hands on another DA-50. That engine rips with a vess 22B prop. I just order a DA-85 for my Lanier 94" Yak and I hope the performance will be just as good as the DA-50.

[HTSkywalker]

Which Standoffs were used to mount the DA ? I have the 2.5". How about the CG with the DA in the nose ? hope the rudder servo in the tail would compensate ?

[Mr. Nobody]

	Quote: Originally Posted by cmcleary
	Well the Sukhoi is no more after this weekend but I just ordered a GP Edge 540. I really like your trim scheme but I am too lazy to strip and recover my plane. No, not really, but I have a few other planes I want to finish and I want to get as much stick time as possible before winter sets in. By the way, what engine are you using in your edge? I was thinking about using the 3mm TOC engine from airwild. I would love to get my hands on another DA-50. That engine rips with a vess 22B prop. I just order a DA-85 for my Lanier 94" Yak and I hope the performance will be just as good as the DA-50.

Hi cmcleary.

I'm using the DL 50. Go back a few pages and I have some install pics.

[Mr. Nobody]

	Quote: Originally Posted by HTSkywalker
	Which Standoffs were used to mount the DA ? I have the 2.5". How about the CG with the DA in the nose ? hope the rudder servo in the tail would compensate ?

I'm using the standoffs that came with the engine - 3" I believe. The plane required, oh, I forget now, I think I put 2 oz. in the tail. But I used the pull/pull cables with a single rudder servo up front. I know I could have used one or two rudder servos mounted to the side of the fuse under the stab (to save weight), but I wanted to use pull/pull anyway.