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Pre-SleepyC Tuna
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Mexifornia
Age: 40
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Re: JR-9303 2.4 Field Results
Oh sweet Jeeezus! We have a mac guy among us!  I have one to that I use for FCP and the video thing. Please let this be our secret.
A few more excerpts from the manual which are VERY pertinent to this conversation, and worth reading.
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Advanced Range Testing Using a Flight Log
While the above Standard Range Testing procedure is
recommended for most sport aircraft, for sophisticated
aircraft that contain significant amounts of conductive/
reflective materials (i.e. turbine-powered jets, some types
of scale aircraft, aircraft with carbon fuselages, etc.) the
following advanced range check will confirm that all
internal and remote receivers are operating optimally and
that the installation (position of the receivers) is optimized
for the specific aircraft. This Advanced Range Check
allows the RF performance of each individual internal
and remote receiver to be evaluated and to optimize the
locations of each individual remote receiver.
Advanced Range Testing the X9303 2.4
1. Plug a flight log (optional) into the data port in the JR
R921 receiver and turn on the system (transmitter and
receiver).
2. Advance the Flight Log until F- frame losses are
displayed, by pressing the button on the flight log.
3. Have a helper hold your aircraft while he observes the
Flight Log data.
4. Standing 30 paces away from the model, face the
model with the transmitter in your normal flying
position and depress and hold the bind button on the
back of the transmitter. This causes reduced power
output from the transmitter.
5. Have your helper position the model in various
orientations (nose up, nose down, nose toward the
transmitter, nose away from the transmitter, etc.)
while your helper is watching the Flight Log, noting
any correlation between the aircraft’s orientation and
Frame Losses. Do this for 1 minute. The timer on
the X9303 can be used here. For giant-scale aircraft,
it’s recommended that the airplane be tipped up on
its nose and rotated 360 degrees for one minute,
then record the data. Next place the airplane on its
wheels and do a second test, rotating the aircraft in all
directions for one minute.
6. After one minute, release the bind button. A successful
range check will have recorded zero frame losses.
Scrolling the Flight Log through the Antenna fades
(A, B, L, R) allow you to evaluate the performance
of each receiver. Antenna fades should be relatively
uniform. If a specific antenna is experiencing a high
degree of fades, then that antenna should be moved
to a different location.
7. A successful Advanced test will yield the following:
H- 0 holds
F- 0 frame losses
A, B, R, L- Antenna fades will typically be less than 100.
It’s important to compare the relative antenna fades and
if a particular receiver has a significantly higher antenna
fades (2 to 3X), then the test should be redone, and if
the same results occur, move the offending receiver to a different location.
Flight Log—Optional for JR R921 Receiver
The Flight Log is compatible with JR R921 receivers. The
Flight Log displays overall RF link performance as well
as the individual internal and external receiver link data.
Additionally it displays receiver voltage.
Using the Flight Log
After a flight and before turning off the receiver or
transmitter, plug the Flight Log into the Data port on the
JR R921 receiver. The screen will automatically display
voltage i.e. 6v2= 6.2 volts.
Note
: When the voltage reaches 4.8 volts or less,
the screen will flash indicating low voltage.
Press the button to display the following information:
A - Antenna fades on internal antenna A
B - Antenna fades on internal antenna B
L - Antenna fades on the left external antenna
R - Antenna fades on the right external antenna
F - Frame loss
H - Holds
Antenna fades—represents the loss of a bit of information
on that specific antenna.
Typically it’s normal to have as many as 50 to 100 antenna
fades during a flight.
If any single antenna experiences over 500 fades in a
single flight, the antenna should be repositioned in the
aircraft to optimize the RF link.
Frame loss—represents simultaneous antenna fades
on all attached receivers. If the RF link is performing
optimally, frame losses per flight should be less that 20.
A hold occurs when 45 continuous (one right after the
other) frame losses occur.
This takes about one second. If a hold occurs during a
flight, it’s important to re-evaluate the system, moving the
antennas to different locations and/or checking to be sure
the transmitter and receivers are all working correctly.
Note
: A servo extension can be used to allow the
Flight Log to more conveniently be plugged in without
having to remove the aircraft’s hatch or canopy. On
some models, the Flight Log can be plugged in,
attached and left on the model using double-sided
tape. This is common with helicopters, mounting the Flight Log conveniently to the side frame.
Receiver Power System Requirements
With all radio installations, it is vital that the onboard power system provides adequate power without
interruption to the receiver even when the system is fully
loaded (servos at maximum flight loads). This becomes
especially critical with giant-scale models that utilize multiple high torque/ high current servos. Inadequate power systems that are unable to provide the necessary
minimum voltage to the receiver during flight loads have
become the number one cause of in-flight failures. Some
of the power system components that affect the ability to properly deliver adequate power include: the selected receiver battery pack (number of cells, capacity, cell type,
state of charge), switch harness, battery leads, regulator
(if used), power bus (if used). While the R921 receivers’ minimum operational voltage is
3.5-volts, it is highly recommended the system be tested per the guidelines below to a minimum acceptable voltage of 4.8-volts during ground testing. This will provide head room to compensate for battery discharging or if the
actual flight loads are greater than the ground test loads. Recommended Power System Guidelines 1. When setting up large or complex aircraft with multiple high torque servos, it’s highly recommended a current and voltmeter (Hangar 9 HAN172) be used. Plug the voltmeter in an open channel port in the receiver and
with the system on, load the control surfaces (apply
pressure with your hand) while monitoring the voltage
at the receiver. The voltage should remain above 4.8 volts even when all servos are heavily loaded. Note : The optional Flight Log has a built in
voltmeter and it can be used to perform this test. 2. With the current meter inline with the receiver battery lead, load the control surfaces (apply pressure
with your hand) while monitoring the current. The
maximum continuous recommended current for a single heavy-duty servo/battery lead is three amps while short duration current spikes of up to five amps
are acceptable. Consequently, if your system draws
more than three amps continuous or five amps for
short durations, a single battery pack with a single
switch harness plugged into the receiver for power
will be inadequate. It will be necessary to use multiple
packs of the same capacity with multiple switches and
multiple leads plugged into the receiver.
3. If using a regulator, it’s important that the above tests are done for an extended period of 5 minutes.
When current passes through a regulator, heat is generated and this heat causes the regulator to
increase resistance, which in turn causes even more heat to build up (thermal runaway). While a regulator may provide adequate power for a short duration, it’s
important to test its ability over time as the regulator
may not be able to maintain voltage at significant
power levels.
4. For really large aircraft or complex models (for example 35% and larger or jets), multiple battery packs with multiple switch harnesses are necessary
or, in many cases, one of the commercially available power boxes/ busses is recommended. No matter what power systems you choose, always carry out test #1 above making sure that the receiver is constantly
provided with 4.8 volts or more under all conditions.
5. The latest generation of Nickel Metal Hydride batteries incorporate a new chemistry mandated to be more
environmentally friendly. These batteries, when
charged with peak detection fast chargers, have
tendencies to false peak (not fully charge) repeatedly.
These include all brands of Ni-MH batteries. If using
Ni-MH packs, be especially cautious when charging
making absolutely sure that the battery is fully
charged. It is recommended to use a charger that can
display total charge capacity. Note the number of mAh put into a discharged pack
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