Well I talked to Hatcher from TBM obout this airplane and to make a long story short he told me to talk to Brian at DA about it cause he has been flying one for 3 or 4 months with their DA 85, and to make a nother long story short He speaks well of the airplane and engine combo. I just wish it required only one servo per wing panel like the AW version. But I don't need to make a decision right away, so I'll see what else pops up on these forums and also get reports on the AW version from a couple of people. The 23lb number keeps coming up for both airplanes, so they seem pretty close weight wise.