Thread: Holy Cow !
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Old 05-31-2008, 06:15 PM   #26
Thomas_W
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Quote: Originally Posted by pjfaller
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WOW!!!!
Part 91 or part 135 running out of fuel???????
just a little qualifier for my comment not patting my back....15K hours multiple heavy jet type ratings.

I dont care how screwed up the fuel transfer system is on a King Air 90, 200, or 300 for that matter. As an SIC or a PIC its is your responsibilty at ALL times to know the usable amount of fuel on that airplane at ALL times. Running out of gas in an airplane is pure STUPDITY....Even more stupidity is the fact that you are online #1 telling about it and #2 trying to justify complete and total incompetence. Have I ever screwed around in an airplane. YES!!! two mistakes high and within the FAR's.
Try sitting across the table in a pilot job interview and explain it the way you are doing it on here. Gee...would you get the job? My thoughts would be NO!

I have a HUGE problem with this post! I wonder why on a daily basis my career and profressionalism as an airline pilot is being questioned by the flying public. Its comments and stupidity like yours that make ME defend my professionalism. You should be 609'ed and your license taken away. WHY not because you screwed up, although I cant justify a fuel starvation problem, but you should be 609'ed because you cant get it through your thick headed skull that what you did not only jeopordized your own life, but your passengers and those on the ground as well.

PURE STUPIDITY PAL!!!!! you can say what you want in return, but wake up and realize what you did is completely and totally your fault as well as the PIC's and there is nothing you can do or say to justify it!

Dude.. i take my job very seriously. Yes what happened should not have happened, but it did, **** happens, you learn from it and carry on (if all comes out well at the end).. At the time neither of us had any indication that we were going to have a flame-out, both fuel nacalle fuel gauges were reading well above empty, and our times indicated to us we had plenty of fuel on board (which we did, 60 gallons roughly, just unfortunately it was all on one side). We "could" of done a cross-feed and had no other problems but we decided it was best to continue on one engine.. And Again, i wasn't PIC, yes i was acting as FO, but FAR's still say its PIC decision. We operate under restricted category, so we dont carry passengers. I'm not trying to justify it was a stupid decision, just that it was a learning experience from a LACK of training. I hadn't even attended a ground school for the king-air 90 and only had a rudementary knowledge of the fuel system, so i was going by mostly what my times were telling me and from the experience for the PIC.. you think I dont realize what could of happened had the situation turned worse. I've lost 3 friends in aviation b/c of stupid decisions, I realize what "could" of happened. Luckily i had someone looking out for myself as well as others and it did not happen. It was a good learning experience (although it should of been in the sim instead of in the plane) and i learned from it.
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