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Old 01-23-2015, 04:10 PM
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Installation of Wing Adjusters.


Make sure all carbon fiber rods are properly glued and secure. One of mine
was not glued properly.
Install wing without any adjusters and rotate up and down to check for binding.
I had no problems. In this case the wing rotated from -1 to +4 degrees.
Check for binding between the center hole of the adjusters and the 4 carbon fiber rods.
I had binding. Used fine emery cloth to remove the binding between rods and adjusters.
Attach the adjusters to the fuselage. Do not force any screws. If you have any binding
use your preferred method of very slightly widen the 2 screw slots on the adjuster.
I used a #29 drill bit using slow speed and some fine emery cloth to remove burrs.
The adjuster should move freely.
Now it is possible to install the wing and make the incidence adjustment.
Setup canopy base to 0 degrees.
Proceed to adjust the wing to your desired degrees. In this case 0.8 degrees. It takes
patience to set the desired degrees.
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Old 01-23-2015, 04:35 PM
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The stock adjusters are the weak point on the airplane, for sure. I will adjust them until I can easily slide the wing on by pushing from the wingtip. The Gator adjusters are nice, but honestly, you could probably just fix the wings at +0.7 and fine tune the elevator trim with the tail. I was never energetic enough to put Gators in the airplane.

The Gator adjusters just came in. They are nicely made. Well as you would know they are not a
direct fit. Oh well there goes easy. I see what you mean about being "energetic enough".
They weigh 10g each.
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Old 01-23-2015, 04:42 PM
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Dansy,


Can you post some pictures of your Gator adjusters and an explanation of how
you went about installing them. It looks like it would take some real thought to do
it properly.
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Old 01-26-2015, 01:33 PM
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We had a break in the weather so I went to the field this Saturday to maiden a new plane.
I met my friend who was practicing with his Vanquish and he had it fling great. He says he is
still making adjustments. There's no question on how well the Vanquish flies.
It was encouraging to see him fly so well.
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Old 01-26-2015, 01:50 PM
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Dansy,


Can you post some pictures of your Gator adjusters and an explanation of how
you went about installing them. It looks like it would take some real thought to do
it properly.
I'm not using the Gator, I'm using the metal one from F3A Unl......I used a piece of carbon rod over the original carbon and voila.....my plane is in my trailer pack tight with airplanes for the winter...currently finishing my shop slowly.....
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Old 01-27-2015, 01:24 PM
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Does anyone want to post pictures and explanations on adapting Gator Adjusters for use
with the Vanquish. I would be very helpful to new builders to be able to make a decision
to make the change before or after maiden flight.
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Old 02-02-2015, 06:41 PM
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Paul, you should try Ray's laser based incidence system. I did it last week and the next flight the difference was immediately noticeable. He can set to .001 degree!
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Old 02-03-2015, 12:25 AM
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The last time I talked to him he had purchased some high precision mirrors.
He said he would help me with mine when I was ready. That's the reason I bought
the Gators. I will get on with developing a installation procedure for myself.
I'm glad Rays system works so well, 001 degrees is great.
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Old 02-05-2015, 02:17 AM
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Ok, I install modified to 6mm Gator adjusters. I made no changes to the wing and I
can still use Vanquish adjusters if need be.
The Gator adjusters will add 23 grams to the Vanquish.
The spreadsheet will reflect the weight effects of this decision.
Will write up details later.
Next is to test the wings range of movement.
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Old 02-05-2015, 08:48 AM
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With the new capabilities of the website I will rearrange and place explanations on
previously posted pictures. (My writing is not the best and some of the pictures are not in order.)
I think it will help those that are new to the Vanquish.
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Old 02-05-2015, 03:07 PM
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The Vanquish Weight Tracking Spreadsheet now reflects the impact of the decision
to install the modified Gator wing adjusters.
With only 130.4 grams left before going over the 5,000 gram max weight I will refrain from adding any new items until the parts still in the estimated weight column are installed.
The weight I saved by changing wire gauge on elevator extensions I gave back by
installing the Gator adjusters.
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Old 02-05-2015, 04:45 PM
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The Gator adjustor has full movement from top to bottom of the adjustment slot.
The pictures are not as good as I would like.
Now I can install the other Gator.
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Today Ray and his son Ray used their laser system to checked my
Vanquish and set the wings to 0.80 degree positive and stab to zero.
The accuracy of their system was impressive.

Ray's laser system is based on Bill Garrod's Laser System. (New South Wales
Pattern Flyers Inc.)
Ray has added his own modifications.

In post #421 I stated the full rotation of the wing was -1 to + 4 degrees this is
not correct.
With Rays system the rotation is -1.5 to +1.5 degrees a total of 3 degrees up and down.
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