No.

In most forums I look for the ones that already tried the ideas, not for the one that want his idea tried by someone else.
It feels like I like a new car and telling someone to buy it and then ask how it was!!!!
To build a plane is hard, lots of time and effort, I have Mojo kits but don't want to risk a good kit just to satisfy your curiosity and if work right, then you going telling everybody that you are the creator of the concept. Remember what Edison said: Creation is 1% ideas and 99% hard work.
Ask Swany for a kit, hire a local builder and build the concept, take video and then show us. For sure we will applaud if it works and if don't at least your curiosity will be satisfied.
Saludos.

Very well said!

Originally Posted by Bolio

For sure we will applaud if it works and if don't at least your curiosity will be satisfied.
Saludos.

If it doesn't work I would still respect you for giving it a shot.

Just make sure the video is running!

Also, if you get someone to try your idea let me know. I have some really crazy stuff I would like for them to try.

Dan

Well, aerodynamically it makes sense. With a thicker cord, it stalls weaker. Thus, by making the tip with a longer chord than the root, the root stalls first, making the stall more controllable and making tip stalls a thing of the past. The downside is obviously to the roll rate. This is why wings are tapered on the tips. Less resistance to the roll.

Originally Posted by Ryguy

... The downside is obviously to the roll rate. This is why wings are tapered on the tips. Less resistance to the roll.

I've tested the roll rate with G3 and apparently there is no difference.

"This is why wings are tapered on the tips".
I think the reason of wings tapered on the tips is only structural.
Nobody have thought to build a plane according to my idea because it isn't good on the structural point of view.

I think it would be interesting to experiment my idea

bigbrain

Do not believe at all in the simulator, they are good learning tools but don't represent the real world at all.
The idea for tapered wings is to distribute the lift in a more efficient way and decrease the wing tip vortice(sp) that increase the drag.
When it comes to aerobatics, the narrower tip allow for a faster roll rate and better roll dampening. Don't think that the simulator is good at recreating this small but tangible effects.
Saludos.

The other thing to consider here is that in some ways (much the way Bolio described it) we are not trying to create stable airplanes, instead we are trying to create unstable airplanes (in very specific ways)

But also, those drag-creating wingtip vorticies create lift, so, with a thicker tip, more lift is created at the wingtip, and thus, more stable harriers and other post-stall manuevers. Downside would obviously be increased drag (which with the kind of flying we do isn't necessarily a bad thing) and reduced roll rate.

Originally Posted by bigbrain

I've tested the roll rate with G3 and apparently there is no difference.

"This is why wings are tapered on the tips".
I think the reason of wings tapered on the tips is only structural.
Nobody have thought to build a plane according to my idea because it isn't good on the structural point of view.

I think it would be interesting to experiment my idea

bigbrain

Dude! I'm a big fan of G3, but G3 isn't 100% accurate in everything! Something like this you will have to test out for yourself. Build the plane! Do a build thread. I'd love to see your ingenuity and ideas come to life! And please leave the sim wars to RCU! It's a stupid and retarded debate. I know. I debated it for a while!(meaning I'm stoopid and retarded. I'm sure someone will agree with this )


Sincerely,
50%

This couold go for ever. Check it out. Almost anything will fly. Things like lawn mowers, We don't 3D them, its cool but not what I call a great airplane. Put wings on Hotdog and it well fly. Im sure with all the great Airplane builders that have disgned real aerobatic aircraft, that if this was a plausable idea it would have already been done. But like the Wright brothers who everyone thought where crazy, build it. Be a myth buster. As far as 1 million replys on if it will work or not. YOU GUYS KNOW THE ANSWER!

Originally Posted by Matchless

The other thing to consider here is that in some ways (much the way Bolio described it) we are not trying to create stable airplanes, instead we are trying to create unstable airplanes (in very specific ways)

To create unstable airplanes is very simple: it is enough to build them with a wing shorter than the other one.

Stability isn't the contrary of 3D capacity.

bigbrain

Originally Posted by invert0914

... Im sure with all the great Airplane builders that have designed real aerobatic aircraft, that if this was a plausible idea it would have already been done ...

No, because my idea is opposite to the common structural sense.

bigbrain

This getting pretty old. Thought it might be interesting but its just a crazy theory unsupported by facts or more importantly results. Throw out some facts. results, plans and maybe it will not just be a crazy theory. Sorry if this makes you mad, not trying to be mean, it just seems as though a theory has turned into a product war and an argument.

Hey saw an old ugly stick fly today that had the wings tapered in, and the ailerons tapered in as well.. flew great... the guy didn't do any 3D.. but the plane flew very nicely... just thought I'd share!