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Re: QQ 86" Yak or EF 88" Yak Poll
19 1/4 lbs!!! That can't be right..what kind of gear is in it! mine came in at 17 1/2 lbs with a 60cc and nimh's..I could easily get to 17lbs and under if I put CF gear, Liions etc... a guy just finished one under 16lbs! ..most are coming in at 16 1/2 - 17 1/2 so your buddy either needs to get another scale or he's got a brick inside there he lost!
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Re: QQ 86" Yak or EF 88" Yak Poll
I'm sorry but you couldn't be more wrong. Do a search on RCU, there is a build thread that explains everything on that airplane. A lot of folks have it and RCU seems to get more traffic on this build that FG does. And you don't have to run a pipe, several are running a DA50 with standard exhaust and it flies great. Mine is 18 1/4lbs, but I'm running a tuned pipe and weight is no issue with this plane no matter how you build it.
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Re: QQ 86" Yak or EF 88" Yak Poll
everyday3, since you are in Alpharetta and we are located in Cumming, why don't you make the short 10 mile drive up to our shop and we'll go out to the flying field and you can see for yourself how our Yak flies on a DA-50. Shoot, I'll even give you the transmitter and you can show us how its done! Get your friend to bring his and we'll figure out where that extra pound+ is.
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Re: QQ 86" Yak or EF 88" Yak Poll
BTW, several customers are right at 16 lbs with the DA-50 and one FG member (Bosshoss) is at 15.8!!!
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Joined Apr 2006
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Re: QQ 86" Yak or EF 88" Yak Poll
The only way I can see getting an EF 88" that heavy is using a ZDZ80 with redundancy on batteries...
Mine has the Brillelli 60 and a side dump muffler... Right at 17 lbs... and it has LOTS of power. The DA50 outfitted planes (with stock muffler) are coming in 16.5 and some even less... I have BOTH of these airplanes... something very few can say, so I can tell the original poster that BOTH planes are of the highest quality. I have yet to fly the QQ 86" (very soon) but I have no doubts it will perform very well. I trust QQ and CHris designs and comments... and both of them are very excited to provide these designs as thier very best yet. The EF is larger... in presence and a little more wing area... about 30 sq in. The QQ 86" "in the air box contents" weighs 8.93 lbs The EF 88" "in the air box contents" weighs 10.36 lbs (Both of these weights are without wheels/axles/collars) Both kits have "optional" items you do not have to use... the QQ has SFG's that weigh 4 oz, the EF has spats, fairings and faux louvers/baffle which weigh a little more than 4 oz. So all in all the QQ will build out (with the same loadout) about 1.4 lbs lighter. The QQ cowl is pretty narrow, and fitting a stock muffler/pitts will require a good deal of cowl cutout... the EF has a HUGE 12" cowl and the Brillelli60/DA50 with stock muffler fits entirely in the cowl... NO cutouts necessary. They both offer quality hardware, double truss phenolic horns, etc. The QQ offers a drop-in canister install and the EF allows for a canister or tuned pipe install. I have flown my EF 88" and it's everything I expected and more... a great aircraft. I really didn't find anything in the build I would have changed.... The QQ was even par in quality and building... So, the bottom line... buy what you like... both will perform excellently and give you your money's worth. The first pic is a side by side pic of the two aircraft and the second shows 3 cowls... the EF 74", the QQ 86" and the EF 88" |
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Re: QQ 86" Yak or EF 88" Yak Poll
Ok thats true ....
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Joined Feb 2006
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Re: QQ 86" Yak or EF 88" Yak Poll
I love my 88".
15lbs 14.5 ozs. Stock DA50 an Lipo's. Stock gear. NOT built with bricks inside...LOL. 19 1/2 lbs....I can;t imagine,but poor choices add up quickly....pitts muffler, nicads, smoke system, dubro rubber wheels, ....put that bird on diet and find LOVE. Here is my Stocker...stripped ....flipping and tumbling like a bumble bee....Bumble Yak Bee. https://www.flyinggiants.com/gallery...hp?photo=24483 |
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Joined May 2006
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Re: QQ 86" Yak or EF 88" Yak Poll
Hey Guys wasn't trying to diss EF. I have sveral of there smaller planes and there the best I have flown. I just knew about one plane and that plane came in a littel heavy. Mabay he does have brick in it. I am sorry if I have stepped on any toes. Chris I have been to your shop and seen you fly. I have know doughts that its a great plane. I never said it wasn't. So agin sorry.
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Re: QQ 86" Yak or EF 88" Yak Poll
I like the looks of the EF Yak much more. They are top notch quality also. That's just my opinion. I never liked the covering of a QQ, but that's just personal preference...nothing more.
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Re: QQ 86" Yak or EF 88" Yak Poll
Everyday3 is no more than a G3 trainer-crashing know it all! I've flown with him a few times, and I still have to get in my truck and crouch down under the dash every time he lands his Nexstar! I wouldn't believe a word he says.
Just kidding. I fly with him on most calm weekends.. he knows his stuff. He's done more with EF's electric planes than anybody I've seen, and he does have a lot of respect for them. As for the weight thing... who f-ing knows? Extreme Flight, Quique, or Hobby Zone.. it don't matter... find something you like, fly it like you stole it, and enjoy the sport. |
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Joined Feb 2006
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Re: QQ 86" Yak or EF 88" Yak Poll
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AMEN , bro. No other plane I have ever brought to the field got more comments and questions than the 88" .. It is a real Queen Bee. But I still have fun , even more so, with my beaters. Fly it like you stole it. Amen. |
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Re: QQ 86" Yak or EF 88" Yak Poll
Anyone having overheating probs with their DA on the 88" yak?
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Re: QQ 86" Yak or EF 88" Yak Poll
Lee, are you using the louver baffle? Make sure to open the bottom of the oil pan box on the bottom of the cowl.
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