Thanks Mark for explaining that, it makes perfect sense. Much appreciated!

FB

Originally Posted by Mark Dennis

It is on the upline, any element placed above the horizontal entry line is meant to be placed on the upline. Likewise, any element placed below the horizontal entry line is supposed to be performed on the down line.

Hope this helps!

Also, notice the concave curve of the arrow - the direction of flight is flown in the direction of the concave curve

Originally Posted by mtndewdewd

I'll try to get BMACK to fly it and I'll record it and give it to you to edit/post if you are up for the editing portion?

Yes, that sounds like a good idea !

The Official Advanced Known and Advanced Alternate Known is posted on the IMAC front page.....enjoy.

Tom Wheeler
IMAC Sequence Committee Chairman

Originally Posted by peterschmidt

Yes, that sounds like a good idea !

Any progress? We are waiting until after the last 2013 contest in 2 weeks to tape the 2014 Unlimited.

Originally Posted by tom wheeler

The Official Advanced Known and Advanced Alternate Known is posted on the IMAC front page.....enjoy.

Tom Wheeler
IMAC Sequence Committee Chairman

Tom, what plane is on your avatar, looks good. It's a Extra Dalton 260?

Thanks.
Felipe.

Felipe,

Thanks, yes it's a Dalton 260, I'm now building my seventh version of the same aircraft with the same scheme.
Here's a few pic's of them.

Tom

No words, one of the best looking plane ever, and if she's a Dalton, she flight espectacular as well.

Thanks for sharing those pics.

F.

Question about two of the moves in the Sportsman sequence:

1) #7 is a cross-box maneuver. Is the rest of the sequence to be done in line with where you exit? Or at some point do you bring the plane back to the original left-right line?

2) is #10 to be done in the center or end of a line?

Thanks!

#7 humpy bump, the 3/4 roll direction on the up line will determine if you pull in or out, then yes, after you do the 2 of 8 on the down line, (the 2 of 8 will be same direction as 3/4 roll) when you pull to upright, that new line, parallel to the runway, would be the "new" line for 8, 9, and 10.

On #10, technically there is no center or end box. Do the maneuver where it looks best. Typically I would have someone pull to the vertical once the plane is past themselves so they can more easily see that the up line is correct, then pull the 3/4 loop. Hope this helps.
Bill

Great, thanks!

Hi Bob,
As Bill mentioned for #7 the up 3/4 roll and down 2 of 8 must roll in the same direction (ie, right & right or left & left). Otherwise you would end up exiting the humpty in the wrong direction (zero).

The only "crossbox" piece of this is the pull over 1/2 loop at the top.

Think of the left/right flightline as the "X" axis and the in/out flightline as the "Y" axis. All of the sportsman manuevers in this sequence are flown on the X axis, with the top of the humpty (#7) flown on the Y. Hope that makes sense .

Hello there Bob... Wishing you and everyone a Happy Thanksgiving tomorrow with your family/families.

When flying maneuver #3, being a two turn spin, a pilot could get blown out from, or in toward the flight line during the stalled maneuver.... if there was a cross wind situation when flying the sequence. If this were to happen, then the pilot can use maneuver #7 to compensate for that drift, to get back on a line that he/she would like to perform the rest of the sequence.

You will find that you, as a pilot, will face varied wind conditions, be it cross wind, headwind, tailwind or quartering from all directions. Each one will present a different situation and you should think ahead as to what you would do under all of them.
Safe flying,
Wayne

Thanks, guys. I get that on #7 the the 3/4 roll is the same direction is flying. Everytime I practice it I think in my mind, "OK, I'm flying to the right, so on vertical go 3/4 right roll, pull over the top then 2X8 right", or, if to the left same thing. That's been a big help.

Happy Thanksgiving and here's to warm temps and low winds (down the runway only, of course) to all!!

Originally Posted by rcbobp

Thanks, guys. I get that on #7 the the 3/4 roll is the same direction is flying. Everytime I practice it I think in my mind, "OK, I'm flying to the right, so on vertical go 3/4 right roll, pull over the top then 2X8 right", or, if to the left same thing. That's been a big help.

Happy Thanksgiving and here's to warm temps and low winds (down the runway only, of course) to all!!

Bob.... Maybe you need to go even a little deeper.... What happens if at a contest, there is a cross-wind of (let's say) 14 MPH blowing out from behind you?? If you were to do what you have mentioned above, you would place yourself WAY OUT in the "boonies" when you pull over the top going out with the wind. Then you will need binoculars to see the rest of the sequence & so will the judges!

Probably best to also practice it the other way.... Just in case.

An observation: While judging at the Eastern Zonal Fly-off for the World Championship in the Sportsman(2013) the Down Humpty had a cross-box element of 1/4 roll down and 2x8 point roll up. There was a 15MPH cross-wind blowing out from behind...... And there was only ONE pilot (out of 8) who made the cross-box element so that he could fly the Y axis coming in...thus staying closer to the flight line. EVERY one else flew the maneuver going out (with the wind).....Hence, they ended up way out in the airspace for the last two maneuvers.

I asked many of them why did they fly it that way.... Answer: Because that was the way we practiced it and did not want to chance it at this important contest.

Nuff said....
Wayne