Hi everyone,

I received this today via email.. I had a quick read of it and it seems to clear up quite a few issues that many had with the changes to MOP019...

As a general aviation pilot I have been reading CASA rules and regulations for a while now and they love to use legally ambiguous terminology that really doesnt provide a black and white answer.. yet leaves it open to interpretation.. but dont worry, its not just us and the MAAA they are applying this too.. every bit of CASA regulation is just as grey....

In short I think its business as usual and any event organiser that ran successfull events in the past shouldnt have any problem to do it again in the future...

Originally Posted by Buzz Lightyear

http://www.news.com.au/technology/sc...-1226306828810

Aw man, I was so duped. I blame the jetlag and the amount of beer I had last night.
Also that it was in a park I know very well, I guess I just wanted it to be real. Nice fake!

Originally Posted by MrFollies

Aw man, I was so duped. I blame the jetlag and the amount of beer I had last night.
Also that it was in a park I know very well, I guess I just wanted it to be real. Nice fake!

Sorry

Originally Posted by Howie

Well I'm on the heavy model subcommittee and it's news to me there are any revisions that are not already up on the web site. That's not to say it isn't possible, as we are just an advisory committee so the MAAA can ignore us and put in place new rules without consulting the subcommittee. (In this case we are still normally told about it.)

If I was a betting man I would say it is just confusion with the 25-50kg class which does have several redundancy requirements.put failsafe switch.

Sadly there are many inspectors who choose to ignore the MOP and set their own standards for a pass.

Howie i have decided to go with the redundant system anyway That way it won't be an issue.
Personally i think he may have just interpreted the mop that is on the website as all large models not just 25kg and over.
I have a couple of A123's here i'll just use them with a duel input and out failsafe switch.

Originally Posted by Buzz Lightyear

Sorry

Me too.
I wonder what else we could fake with CGI:
- a date with Elle
- flying a 1000 point Unlimited sequence

Originally Posted by Gil

Me too.
I wonder what else we could fake with CGI:
- a date with Elle
- flying a 1000 point Unlimited sequence

LOL

Only way I can fly at the moment

Originally Posted by timbo0279

As a general aviation pilot I have been reading CASA rules and regulations for a while now and they love to use legally ambiguous terminology that really doesnt provide a black and white answer.. yet leaves it open to interpretation.. but dont worry, its not just us and the MAAA they are applying this too.. every bit of CASA regulation is just as grey....

It's called plausible deniability. Works really well unless you are the patsy.

Originally Posted by BeverleyFlyer

I spoke to Dave today he said it was a new amendment to the mops that all models 7kg and over must have battery redundancy.

Sounds very much like your mate needs to have another read of MOP015

Seriously, I do FW25 inspections on behalf of the MAAA and am not aware of any such requirement for under 25Kg
I suspect this is merely some confusion between FW25 and FW50 inspections rather than individual inspectors setting their own rules.
Do you have access to another inspector?

I can just imagine the fuss if the MAAA did try to change the heavy model MOP... It would just never happen. Could you imagine telling all the old war bird guys out there that their single 1100mah nicad pack on their 13kg P47 doesn't make the grade? Of course, we should probably be more worried about the single 3.5kg servo's that they have been running on the elevator since the mid-eighties... And don't get me started on kill switches...

Originally Posted by Gil

Me too.
I wonder what else we could fake with CGI:
- a date with Elle
- flying a 1000 point Unlimited sequence

Gil

Be very carefull

Don't make jokes about Elle or should I say my next wife!!!

Kill switches, easy mate I just use the the tried and very much tested method of striking the prop on the ground as you land, bit expensive but none the less effective.

Originally Posted by lee1093

Kill switches, easy mate I just use the the tried and very much tested method of striking the prop on the ground as you land, bit expensive but none the less effective.

Or the answer I got from some one last weekend about how they were going to stop a 50cc "... just throw a rag into the prop... thats what I do with my glow motors"

Yeah we just had a young lad chuck his fingers into a 50cc motor of an unrestrained model, yep you got it, lost a couple of fingers. As a foot note this was not at our club, but at a small farm haveing a bit of a fly with a couple of mates, "we always start them like that " type of thing............................................. .. Why!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Hogboy

Or the answer I got from some one last weekend about how they were going to stop a 50cc "... just throw a rag into the prop... thats what I do with my glow motors"

Hey i seen that done on a zenoah g64 magnito engine

Originally Posted by apalsson

Sounds very much like your mate needs to have another read of MOP015

Seriously, I do FW25 inspections on behalf of the MAAA and am not aware of any such requirement for under 25Kg
I suspect this is merely some confusion between FW25 and FW50 inspections rather than individual inspectors setting their own rules.
Do you have access to another inspector?

Yeah i have access to other inspectors but i have decided to go with 2 a123's anyway I got a couple of brand new ones here so might as well use them.