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i got an email back from EF and it looks like it does cost that much b/c of "oversize" box. i dont know how 3DHS does it for so much less. i ordered 2 planes from them int he past 6-9 months and each time they were about $15-$20 and they also use ups.....
anyway, it's done. i'm just gonna enjoy the plane. |
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I just got a 3DHS 48" Edge shipped to me via UPS for $16.38 shipping!!
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i just got done with the plane last night and i now just need to decide on what prop/ battery to use. currently on the apc 13x6.5e prop, it pulls 500watts, 45amps with 3s 2600mah. holding the plane vertically, it "feels" like hover is about 1/2 throttle or a bit less.
has anyone tried the xoar (or jxf) 13x7 or 13x8? i'd love to try a slow-fly style 13" prop, but i dont know who makes one. i've always liked the slow-fly's much better than the e props, but cant find them in this size. all my electric planes have always used 12x6sf props and they have much better slow speed control for 3d. the "e" props just spin all the way up at high throttle, but dont throw enough air over the control surfaces at slow, 3d speeds. i havnt tried 4s yet. i only have the 12x6sf props, but am worried that this motor on 4s is too much power for this prop. (sf props have less "beefy" hubs and thinner roots than the e props - a bit dangerous at high power levels). but they fly so much better! ideally i'd like about 550watts. any suggestions? maybe a different prop (wood or slow fly) or bigger size (14")? i'd like to stay away from 4s, b/c i want to stay as light as possible. |
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If you are going to run 3S try a 14/7. That's generally a good prop for 3S setups.
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Has anyone experienced needing to change the thrust line on their EDGE EXP? I have 20+ flights on mine and the problem I'm experiencing is that the plane always wants to climb when inverted. It flights straight and level when upright. I have moved the CG from tailheavy to nose heavy all with the same problem. I checked the stab incidence against the wing and all appears to be right on. I was explaining this to another club member yesterday and he suggested to add some up thrust to the motor. Any ideas? How much?
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Before you do that do a throttle off dive test. Take it up really high and cut the power. Drop the nose straight down and take your hands off the sticks. If it pulls to the canopy it is noseheavy. If it pulls to the gear it is tailheavy. If it goes straight as an arrow all the way down it is balanced perfectly. Try it in different orientations to the wind to verify your results.
If it dives straight (i.e. perfect cg) and you still have the inverted climb under power you should adjust your thrust line to reduce downthrust slightly. |
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Main difference to the 45 upline test is that it is power off and will disregard thrust angle and also that it will give you zero all the way through high airspeed conditions too. Looking forward to your results!
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Hey guys. Well I got my order of 12x6, 13x5, 13x6 Xoar woodies today from Tower.
Here are the numbers for those interested. Tested on a fully charged pack with the peak .2V taken off the top for more consistent numbers. The order tested is as shown. This is at 3500ft asl, +30*C hot day, 4s 2650 25C Nano's (which very small IR resulting in more output than most). Whoever said the equivalent Xoars pull less watts/amps than the APC-E's must have been using crappy packs. Unfortunately I left my thrust guage at home, but my experience below says it all. 12x6 APC-E 624W 40.35A 15.43V 12x6 Xoar 731W 47.69A 15.23V 13x5 Xoar 746W 48.96A 15.14V 13x6 Xoar 821W 54.06A 15.11V All I can say is OH MY FREAKING GOODNESS these props are amazing. It has literally turned this "pretty good" 3D king into a freaking balls to the wall 3D show stopper!!! The 13x6 is too many W & A so it was only used for test numbers for you guys. The plane was fun @ 624W on the 12x6 APC-E, but I always seemed to be hessitant on tail touch hovers as when the plane starts to fall out on a very low pack, the hover pullout was mediocore. Realize that I do fly at high altitude and on a hot day like to day, the air is pretty thin. Density altitude for today's testing and flying was around 6500ft ASL. First I started with the 12x6 Xoar. Just on blipping the throttle on the ground the plane lurched forward like I'd put a 5s lipo in her!!! I couldn't believe it. So I took off and that thing climbed like a homesick angel. It's amazing how much more thrust that prop puts out. Hovers were much more stable, tons of pull out and just all around much more aggressive. Harriers were also a bit more solid so i did several harrier landings to test it. Everything else was similar, but that extra 110 watts made a huge difference. Next I threw on the 13x5 woodie. WOW. Words can't even describe how much I love this prop. The 12x6 is better for imac/precision work, but this is my 3D beast. The 13x5 just sounds and flies plain sick! It honestly is like an entirely new plane over the 12x6 APC-E... Hovering was so rock solid that several guys at the club were cheering at me and telling me I was smiling too big. lol. Seriously. The extra diameter and prop wash over the surfaces really locks this plane in. Harriers and harrier landings have almost become too easy. Before they were managable but a bit unstable, but now it's just cake. For those interested, the motor, ESC and packs all came down just barily warm, so I know it's not too much. Both flights were 6.5 minutes on these packs without hitting LVC. Wow. I wished I had more packs charged up as I usually just fly this between my 33% gasser flights. I was so impressed today with these new props that I wished I'd left the IMAC gasser at home and filled the truck with lipo packs. LOL. All I can say is, get on the ball and order yourself a 12x6 and 13x5 if you want a little "extra oomph". I think I'm in love... LOL Egan |
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based on power specs, it should be fine..
but it is listed at 47g heavier than the Torque motor... while that is no biggy for the airframe.. you may have to play a bit to get the balance.... |
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Ordered one of these last week. Really excited, this will be my first edge. I was gonna run Hitec 65s all around but see now some are running the 85 on the elevator. Is the 5085 any better then the 85? Or will the 65 be enough?
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