Hmmm. Interesting test, Jodi. I was going to say that it sounds like the high speed jets are blocked somewhere along the way. It sounds like this will conform or deny that, no? I will try and take pictures or even a video.

Shimano and siko, your advice is appreciated. Thank you.
Mr. Sikes, I sprayed the cleaner everywhere except the front bearing area. Good idea though.

Originally Posted by Huckin Chuck

Hmmm. Interesting test, Jodi. I was going to say that it sounds like the high speed jets are blocked somewhere along the way. It sounds like this will conform or deny that, no? I will try and take pictures or even a video.
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Not necessarily, but possibly. To this point you've done little to determine anything specific. I'm trying to stay out of it as much as possible, letting you see if you can figure it out on your own, trying to just answer questions directed specifically to me. BUT, ...

Accurate and efficient troubleshooting needs to be deliberate and methodical. You have to resist making multiple changes before re-testing, otherwise you have no idea which change had which effect if any.

It's a process of elimination. You must fix any known existing issue first, no matter how insignificant it may seem, don't take ANYTHING for granted. Then you should choose the most likely subsystem that has the ability to cause the problem, break that subsystem down into it's assorted components. Through a thorough understanding of the system, use a methodical process of elimination to test or inspect each component. Repair or replace as needed until you can clear that subsystem as non-causal. Then move on to the next most likely subsystem.

It sounds like it will take a long time but it doesn't if you have the understanding of the system. If one doesn't have a keen understanding of the systems involved, the second best approach is to throw new parts at it until you find one that fixes it. That can get expensive, but you wind up with a bunch of good spare parts when you finally stumble on the one part that works.

Now, I've spent half my night typing you this advice as if you are still wanting to figure it out on your own. The above can help you get there if you want. If you need help understanding how a system or component works, ask away. Don't be embarrassed if you need that kind of help, you're still smarter than half the people on this site.

Have a Happy and Safe Independence Day!

Thanks for taking the time to type that. I admit I got discouraged and was about to say screw it. But as usual you got me back and interested in it. Thank you.
I will preform that test ASAP.
I dont know why but I have a gut feeling that the problem is in the carb. I do not know how to do any cleaning or inspecting past the two "covers" or plates whatever you want to call them. The carb is wet when I disassemble it so it's getting fuel, but the engine doesn't respond accordingly. So to me it points to something in the carb. But we shall see.

Question. And this can be answered with a one word answer. Do you know what the problem is, or at least have a hunch?

You're welcome, I think. ;-)

Good, but be more careful this time ... please.

Your gut has logic, and that's a very good place to start. But, have you made certain that everything that makes the carburetor function is in good order, nothing even marginal. Do you know everything the carburetor needs to function correctly? Don't take that wrong, I just want you to be sure, and get the info you need if necessary so nothing is overlooked, that's the key to successful troubleshooting. I'll guarantee you that at some point in your life, the one thing you overlook will bite your behind. Or at least cause you to chase your tail for a while, it's good lesson. lol

No, I don't know for certain what the problem is. I'm a guru, not a gypsy!

Yes I have a hunch, right between my shoulder blades.

Here's a little hint,,, take pictures when you are taking something apart for the first time so you will have a reference on how it goes back together

Originally Posted by Huckin Chuck

Thanks for taking the time to type that. I admit I got discouraged and was about to say screw it. But as usual you got me back and interested in it. Thank you.
I will preform that test ASAP.

Welll???

This is a good thread, sorry it's at Chucks expense.

Originally Posted by Jedijody

Welll???

Yeah man, not sure how much longer I can keep up this drumb roll !

Hey,

Chuck seems to be a decent young man and is helped by a master technician.

I said ASAP not "now"
I was occupied with a large national birthday party today. My apologies
But seriously our neighborhood has a 4th of July party that I helped set up for and I grilled food during the afternoon then put on the fire works show.
Tomorrow it'll happen. Luckily the rain seems to have ceased (knoking on some serious wood. We are 16" above normal and everywhere is flooded). I'll get to it tomorrow. I'm confident we (I? we? us?) can solve this tomorrow.
Jodi. Should I run the test with the carb as is or should I learn how to clean the rest of the carb, clean it, them do the test?

Originally Posted by 49dimes

Hey,

Chuck seems to be a decent young man and is helped by a master technician.

He's got someone else helping him? Well, I'll stay out of the way then.

We're separated by our entire country but I did have the pleasure of his company for a time at an event last year. Chuck is a VERY bright and respectful young man (or he just knows how to get what he wants ), and a huge pleasure to be around.

Seriously, if opportunity was to present itself, don't pass up meeting this kid and spending the day flying with him, you wouldn't regret it.

Originally Posted by Jedijody

He's got someone else helping him? Well, I'll stay out of the way then.

We're separated by our entire country but I did have the pleasure of his company for a time at an event last year. Chuck is a VERY bright and respectful young man (or he just knows how to get what he wants ), and a huge pleasure to be around.

Seriously, if opportunity was to present itself, don't pass up meeting this kid and spending the day flying with him, you wouldn't regret it.

Originally Posted by Huckin Chuck

I said ASAP not "now"
I was occupied with a large national birthday party today. My apologies
But seriously our neighborhood has a 4th of July party that I helped set up for and I grilled food during the afternoon then put on the fire works show.
Tomorrow it'll happen. Luckily the rain seems to have ceased (knoking on some serious wood. We are 16" above normal and everywhere is flooded). I'll get to it tomorrow. I'm confident we (I? we? us?) can solve this tomorrow.
Jodi. Should I run the test with the carb as is or should I learn how to clean the rest of the carb, clean it, them do the test?

See, what I tell ya, and he's Mr. Community to boot!

Hey Chuck, when ya get done washing my truck I'll have the grill all warmed up for ya!

Do the test as is, no need to go further in the carb just yet.

Originally Posted by Jedijody

He's got someone else helping him? Well, I'll stay out of the way then.

We're separated by our entire country but I did have the pleasure of his company for a time at an event last year. Chuck is a VERY bright and respectful young man (or he just knows how to get what he wants ), and a huge pleasure to be around.

Seriously, if opportunity was to present itself, don't pass up meeting this kid and spending the day flying with him, you wouldn't regret it.

Well shucks! I guess I should mention that I would have had a grounded plane for a good 8 months if not for my engine guru friend. And not only is he the most knowledgable guy I know, he always helps out and shared his info. Not to mention he goes above and beyond to help others and is one great guy. He even stayed up till the wee hours teaching me te ways of life (and internal combustion engines) when he had a plane ride at 3 am or some ungodly time.

Originally Posted by Jedijody

See, what I tell ya, and he's Mr. Community to boot!

Hey Chuck, when ya get done washing my truck I'll have the grill all warmed up for ya!

Do the test as is, no need to go further in the carb just yet.

Hmmm. If I remember correctly, don't I already own you a lawn cutting? In all honesty, if I anywhere even close to the pacific NW, I'm paying you a visit.
On a tangent here, are you thinking about coming to HOW3 it was that just a perfect coincidence of plans last year?

I can't get my Blue Mohawk of a son to do anything much less wash anything!

Happy 4th to you ALL!

Originally Posted by Huckin Chuck

Well shucks! I guess I should mention that I would have had a grounded plane for a good 8 months if not for my engine guru friend. And not only is he the most knowledgable guy I know, he always helps out and shared his info. Not to mention he goes above and beyond to help others and is one great guy. He even stayed up till the wee hours teaching me te ways of life (and internal combustion engines) when he had a plane ride at 3 am or some ungodly time.


Hmmm. If I remember correctly, don't I already own you a lawn cutting? In all honesty, if I anywhere even close to the pacific NW, I'm paying you a visit.
On a tangent here, are you thinking about coming to HOW3 it was that just a perfect coincidence of plans last year?

You better let me know if you're ever in the hood. I go out of my way to stir up crap too sometimes but I'm old, that's my story and I'm sticking to it!

Yeah the lawn, I helped the neighbor kid fix his scooter so he's been keeping it up for you. It'll wait.

Am I thinking about going to HOWIII? There was a coincidence factor at play last year but not this year. I'll be there planned and on purpose, wouldn't miss it for the world. Might even have one of my own planes there to fly.