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Old 12-24-2006, 07:27 PM   #1
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Gent's first off Marry Christmas to all, second what is the easiest and where to purchase or make the support for the elevator on the Extreme Flight Extra ?

Does Du-bro carry anything like that ? It just seem like everyone has a problem with the elavator on this plane.

Also should I use the CA hinges or I have some plastic well vinal from dubro ?

Getting my plane in few days.
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Old 12-24-2006, 07:40 PM   #2
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Th elevators on the 300e are very thin and require a good building skills to connect them properly. Several methods have been used successfully.

Read the thread on RCU , if you use the supplied CF to join them, just make damn sure there is a great bond. Double check.

I assemble (I have built a few for friends), the elevator and stab completely on the bench , and install it as an assembly after cutting a slot all the way to the back of the fuse. The manual suggests to install the stab, first throught the hole in fuse, the hinge and join the stabs.

In my opinion this makes it too easy to get improper alignment and squareness. I assemble it as an assembly, stab and elevators....and I use a music wire U-bar connector between the elevators , balsa'd onto the bottom of the stab.

The CA hinges are fine, I use one Dubro small pin hinge on the bottom of the rudder, with the pin being a piece of music wire wound and coiled and bent for the tail wheel, this putts the stress on the fuse and not the rudder and bottom CA hinge. This was neccessary for our bumpy grassy field.

There are pics of it on RCU.

Hope that helps...it is a great plane, and with a little beefing here and there a real sturdy grass field bird. We also made a mod to move the gear forward one former to make it more grass field compliant.

flew mine Today, right after the EF Yak-54 47". love them both.

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Old 12-24-2006, 07:59 PM   #3
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Thank you lots of good advice I'll try to look for the pictures and if I can't find em could you post a link, and where would i purchase the u-bar music wire on line.

Marry Christmas to you aslo.
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Old 12-24-2006, 08:32 PM   #4
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I did exactly the same as Bosshoss; bent, squared off U-bar wire brace inserted in each half of the elevator connecting them. CF rod epoxied over that; all pre-assembled FLAT on the workbench, then hinged, then, cut a slot in the back of the fuse and slip it in, make sure it's level and square. Glue it up. Sooooo easy and there's no way for it to come apart, I don't care how violent those blenders are, and I throw mine around pretty hard, too.
Bosshoss's original discussion: http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_37...37/key_/tm.htm

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Old 12-25-2006, 03:17 PM   #5
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Flew the Extra a little while ago this Christmas day, she is a true chameleon. I flew her with an extra heavy battery setup today for gusty winds. Straight lines are made easy with this small plane.
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Old 12-26-2006, 01:37 AM   #6
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Maybe my plane will get here tommorow but I doubt it tho probly on wendsday, did you get that music wire U-Bar at a hardware store ? how gusty and what kind of battery ?
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I used push-rod wire from the hobby shop, I forget the guage. Just buy a rod that looks about right, not too heavy, doesn't take much and has to slip into the hole you drill in the elevator halves. If you're at the Marine Base in N.C., maybe they've got a hobby shop in town. If you're in Iraq or Afganistan - gotta get creative. Thin bicycle spoke?
Once you get really good with it, you can fly in the wind, maybe up to 10 or 15 knots. I've seen videos of guys flying them in the wind, but I don't like flying in the wind at all with mine. Maybe I will someday, but right now, I look for calm days up to about 5 mph. I have other planes for the windy days that are more 3D. I'm doing mostly pattern type practice with mine. It's got a heck-of-a climb rate at full throttle. You can zip it up to a few hundred feet in now time!
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As for the elevator halves and stiffening them up, I used an additional piece of 1/8" flat carbon rod joining the two halves about 3/8" back from the hingeline - rocksolid!
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"As for the elevator halves and stiffening them up, I used an additional piece of 1/8" flat carbon rod joining the two halves"

Agreed. If you get this with the kit, that will do it, but some kits don't have that in there.
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Old 12-27-2006, 09:13 AM   #10
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Mine came out at 31.5 ozs...bone stock on the first try. After mods and mishaps (gear rebuild, elevator rebuild) she is at 33.5 oz with a TP2100 pro Lite.

But, I have seen these 300e's and flown them , at 41oz!! There is a lot of room for personalization....I have one friend who scale detailed his. Moved the gear, added cockpit and moving pilot, uses 4000mah batts, banner towing, skis, burning smoke pellet assembly, a whole host of mods that most 3d'ers would sniff at, including me.

This plane has much more room for mod and the like, than the Yak54e. IMO.

For instance, I run 2 old 10c 2100s ganged , and fly her in 10-15mph. I have a friend who bent and formed a much better landing gear for our deer-holed field, and run full axles and foam tires.

Despite some of it's reported and documented shortcomings, I vote this for the best ARF of 2006. It truly changed the E-plane genre and demonstrated that a small plane can fly like a large one.

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