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thewrap · 05-18-2007, 02:22 PM

Your best bet with a 40% that is good for Imac or other competions in my opinion is the Wh Extra.

sensei · 05-19-2007, 12:20 AM

	Quote: Originally Posted by aviti
	Looking for the best 3D kit in 40% class. I'm not concerned about IMAC. Only wanting a kit. Please only respond if you have first hand knowledge of the plane.

The lightest one you can build.

Bob

adrian · 05-23-2007, 04:52 PM

	Quote: Originally Posted by thewrap
	Your best bet with a 40% that is good for Imac or other competions in my opinion is the Wh Extra.

3D was the question bro!!!lol

zumaboster · 05-23-2007, 05:54 PM

All hail to JTEC!

tavis newman · 06-14-2007, 07:22 AM

What about a level 1 3W Yak. Its a kit and it flys 3D better than any of them.Just ask QQ!

forgues research · 06-14-2007, 08:00 AM

The best airplane for 3D is not the airplane at all, its the fingers on the sticks with proper computer input (brain)

Roger

tavis newman · 06-14-2007, 02:54 PM

lol,OK which plane has the best aerodinamic characteristics for 3D assuming the guy on the sticks can huck it?

Dangerous Dan · 06-14-2007, 03:38 PM

A guy built a 160"WS profile for a 150cc. I saw the pics somewhere. That would be the best for 3D only. Form follows function...LOL

tavis newman · 06-19-2007, 09:26 PM

What about the 3W Yak?

bob_nj · 07-02-2007, 11:30 AM

I have a 40% Carden Cap too and like it alot.
There seems to be a new way of thinking in our area though, that if you don't have one of the newer airframes, you just aren't with it.
What do the new planes like SD, Comp Arf etc. have that the older planes don't have? Is it the bigger ailerons and the like?

Anyway, maybe my cg is bit aft, but the plane carries a little down elevator and I don't know why?
It does upright harriers great, but the inverted stuff is a little lacking.

Can you guys do smooth graceful inv waterfalls for example?
I can bury the elevator upright, but it just feels different when inverted.
Any ideas?

Thanks
Bob

Mithrandir · 07-02-2007, 12:41 PM

	Quote: Originally Posted by tavis newman
	What about a level 1 3W Yak. Its a kit and it flys 3D better than any of them.Just ask QQ!

Jason Noll (#1 IMAC/3D Pilot on earth) told me the Krill was his favorite for 3D and the QQYak for precision...
I have flown neither myself.. and besides.. I am a Hack Sunday flier!!lol

Vic3D · 07-09-2007, 03:22 AM

Bold. hehe

Tired Old Man · 07-09-2007, 06:42 AM

Only one plane was originally desiged with a wing that substantially delayed the onset of a stall, which makes 3D maneuvering better and easier. That's the Edge. Although a well laid out Cap is a formiddable design, they always have more coupling issues than any plane out there. They take a lot of time and effort to work out. The Sukhoi and Yak were originally designed around competition precision aerobatics, with the Yak being a less expensive alternative to the Sukhoi but not quite as capable. That should offer some clues to 3D intentions between the two. The advances in the Extra were to combat the bad qualities in the Cap 232, again for precision aerobatics.

Ultimately I believe what some others have already stated. With enough practice and in the hands of a capable pilot it doesn't matter which one you have.

flying skunks · 12-07-2007, 05:41 PM

I personally love the way the 37.5% SD Yak flies 3D.

FlyinTiger · 12-15-2007, 01:23 AM

I agree with the guy who said, "the best plane to 3D is the plane you've got."

If you're going to build a kit, the Carden builders have some great techniques for lightening the planes, especially the empenage areas.

Papa Stek has some great Carden building tips to keep you going the right direction.

Good luck!

View Poll Results: Best 40% kit for 3D
42% Dalton Extra 260	46	31.08%
40% Carden Edge 540	64	43.24%
40% Carden 260	23	15.54%
39% Aeroworks Edge 540T	15	10.14%
Voters: 148. You may not vote on this poll

05-18-2007, 02:22 PM	#61
thewrap I had it, but then I lost it. Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Highland Village Texas Age: 19 Posts: 1,863	Re: Which 40% is best for 3D? Your best bet with a 40% that is good for Imac or other competions in my opinion is the Wh Extra.

05-23-2007, 05:54 PM	#64
zumaboster Bad-ass Super Contributer! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: MUSKEGO wi usa Age: 30 Posts: 215	Re: Which 40% is best for 3D? All hail to JTEC!

06-14-2007, 07:22 AM	#65
tavis newman BAM!!!!!!!!! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Martinsburg WV Age: 33 Posts: 97	Re: Which 40% is best for 3D? What about a level 1 3W Yak. Its a kit and it flys 3D better than any of them.Just ask QQ!

06-14-2007, 08:00 AM	#66
forgues research Bad-ass Super Contributer! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 3,189	Re: Which 40% is best for 3D? The best airplane for 3D is not the airplane at all, its the fingers on the sticks with proper computer input (brain) Roger __________________ Sbach 342 http://www.rcxmachines-na.com Turbine spark ignitions Fiber Optic servo extensions Engines Standoffs

06-14-2007, 02:54 PM	#67
tavis newman BAM!!!!!!!!! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Martinsburg WV Age: 33 Posts: 97	Re: Which 40% is best for 3D? lol,OK which plane has the best aerodinamic characteristics for 3D assuming the guy on the sticks can huck it?

06-14-2007, 03:38 PM	#68
Dangerous Dan Bad-ass Super Contributer! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Gainesville, TX Age: 38 Posts: 3,557 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	Re: Which 40% is best for 3D? A guy built a 160"WS profile for a 150cc. I saw the pics somewhere. That would be the best for 3D only. Form follows function...LOL __________________ Cactus Aviation http://www.cactusaviation.com/ Fromeco http://www.fromeco.org/ Free Advice: Do Not Fly In Cow Pastures! Don't Clean your Engine With oven Cleaner! Check batteries after smoke is released from throttle servo! Don't put reeds in Backwards!

06-19-2007, 09:26 PM	#69
tavis newman BAM!!!!!!!!! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Martinsburg WV Age: 33 Posts: 97	Re: Which 40% is best for 3D? What about the 3W Yak?

07-02-2007, 11:30 AM	#70
bob_nj Bad-ass Super Contributer! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Vineland, New Jersey Age: 55 Posts: 692	New Technology vs Carden Cap I have a 40% Carden Cap too and like it alot. There seems to be a new way of thinking in our area though, that if you don't have one of the newer airframes, you just aren't with it. What do the new planes like SD, Comp Arf etc. have that the older planes don't have? Is it the bigger ailerons and the like? Anyway, maybe my cg is bit aft, but the plane carries a little down elevator and I don't know why? It does upright harriers great, but the inverted stuff is a little lacking. Can you guys do smooth graceful inv waterfalls for example? I can bury the elevator upright, but it just feels different when inverted. Any ideas? Thanks Bob __________________ http://www.rcsites.net/bob_nj/

07-09-2007, 03:22 AM	#72
Vic3D Mother Huckin' Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Caguas, Puerto Rico Age: 25 Posts: 4,304 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 3	Re: Which 40% is best for 3D? Bold. hehe __________________ Pilot RC Aztech Aero/Secraft/EG Aircraft B&E Graphics, Jersey Modeler, TailDragger RC

07-09-2007, 06:42 AM	#73
Tired Old Man Bad-ass Super Contributer! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: California Posts: 4,323	Re: Which 40% is best for 3D? Only one plane was originally desiged with a wing that substantially delayed the onset of a stall, which makes 3D maneuvering better and easier. That's the Edge. Although a well laid out Cap is a formiddable design, they always have more coupling issues than any plane out there. They take a lot of time and effort to work out. The Sukhoi and Yak were originally designed around competition precision aerobatics, with the Yak being a less expensive alternative to the Sukhoi but not quite as capable. That should offer some clues to 3D intentions between the two. The advances in the Extra were to combat the bad qualities in the Cap 232, again for precision aerobatics. Ultimately I believe what some others have already stated. With enough practice and in the hands of a capable pilot it doesn't matter which one you have.

12-07-2007, 05:41 PM	#74
flying skunks I got a BIG BLOCK now ...... Join Date: May 2006 Location: Flying with the Best of Friends Posts: 9,823	Re: Which 40% is best for 3D? I personally love the way the 37.5% SD Yak flies 3D.

12-15-2007, 01:23 AM	#75
FlyinTiger Bad-ass Super Contributer! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Eastern Virginia Posts: 251	Re: Which 40% is best for 3D? I agree with the guy who said, "the best plane to 3D is the plane you've got." If you're going to build a kit, the Carden builders have some great techniques for lightening the planes, especially the empenage areas. Papa Stek has some great Carden building tips to keep you going the right direction. Good luck! __________________ ______________________ FlyinTiger <>< FCM

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