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GremlinX · 01-21-2007, 06:33 PM

I just can't seem to decide which one will serve me best for a plane I am building now. Its a 3D 35% that will weigh 24.4-25 lbs. I do know that the 85 will be cheaper and require 1 less header/can so that will save money and weight. But will it provide me enough torque for 3D? I am not really in favor of either and am stuck between. Less power and lighter or more torque, but heavier 100??? Thanks for your input.

3D_Kid · 01-21-2007, 06:34 PM

I think the plane will have less wing loading with the DA85, making it fly better, just my opinion.

GremlinX · 01-21-2007, 06:39 PM

I need 3D power though, as long as it will have that...

Flyinrazrback · 01-21-2007, 06:42 PM

Put the 85 on a pipe, and then you will have the extra power you are looking for with less cost than the 100 and still less weight.

3D_Kid · 01-21-2007, 06:47 PM

	Quote: Originally Posted by Flyinrazrback
	Put the 85 on a pipe, and then you will have the extra power you are looking for with less cost than the 100 and still less weight.

agreed

GremlinX · 01-21-2007, 06:52 PM

	Quote: Originally Posted by 3D_Kid
	agreed

I agree to that, with a pipe, I am just thinking about the mid range loss I will suffer from with a pipe...

3D_Kid · 01-21-2007, 06:53 PM

What about a canister setup Gremlin?

Eury · 01-21-2007, 06:56 PM

Not really something you can make a decision on, they haven't released any specs for the 85 yet.

Flyinrazrback · 01-21-2007, 07:02 PM

There is not much midrange loss with a pipe if you set it up correctly, most of those issues come from folks who dont know how a pipe works.

notorious_benny · 01-21-2007, 08:14 PM

	Quote: Originally Posted by GremlinX
	I need 3D power though, as long as it will have that...

Why do you think you need more power for 3D???, I have found consistently that flying IMAC sequences is far more power hungry than flying 3D style.

Go for less wingloading for 3D, but if you want a sequence machine I would take the slight increase in wingloading for the extra power.

GremlinX · 01-21-2007, 09:23 PM

	Quote: Originally Posted by notorious_benny
	Why do you think you need more power for 3D???, I have found consistently that flying IMAC sequences is far more power hungry than flying 3D style. Go for less wingloading for 3D, but if you want a sequence machine I would take the slight increase in wingloading for the extra power.

Because I am a male, more power is better... LOL
Nah, I just like to have good power to pull out of hovering. i do not care much about IMAC personally, though I do appreciate those who do it.

notorious_benny · 01-21-2007, 09:33 PM

In that case I would guess that the 85 on a pipe would pull out of the hover with good authority if the performace of some of the other 80 class singles in the market is anything to go on.

Again, if I was flying IMAC with it I would put the most power feasable up front.

GremlinX · 01-21-2007, 09:36 PM

Thanks Benny...

sweetpea · 01-21-2007, 10:52 PM

Me personally.....the 100. You can put it in so many more planes than the 85. Also easier to sell when you decide to step up to IMAC and get yourself a 150 40%er..

The Dirt Doctor · 01-22-2007, 04:33 PM

Hey Sweatpea, one doesn't necessarily need a 40%'er to be competitive in IMAC!! 40%'ers are just the rage now-a-days but you don't need one to be competitive!!

Bobby

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01-21-2007, 06:33 PM	#1
GremlinX Father of the Scale Furum Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Chapel Hill, TN Age: 34 Posts: 4,577	DA 85 or DA 100? I just can't seem to decide which one will serve me best for a plane I am building now. Its a 3D 35% that will weigh 24.4-25 lbs. I do know that the 85 will be cheaper and require 1 less header/can so that will save money and weight. But will it provide me enough torque for 3D? I am not really in favor of either and am stuck between. Less power and lighter or more torque, but heavier 100??? Thanks for your input. __________________ "I'll have the roast duck with the mango salsa" Kit builders check out.... http://bobflies.com/ 2.4 GHz is for your home telephone... 14MZ and 72 MHz for huckin' baby!!

01-21-2007, 06:34 PM	#2
3D_Kid Bad-ass Super Contributer! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Ohio Age: 22 Posts: 711	Re: DA 85 or DA 100? I think the plane will have less wing loading with the DA85, making it fly better, just my opinion.

01-21-2007, 06:39 PM	#3
GremlinX Father of the Scale Furum Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Chapel Hill, TN Age: 34 Posts: 4,577	Re: DA 85 or DA 100? I need 3D power though, as long as it will have that... __________________ "I'll have the roast duck with the mango salsa" Kit builders check out.... http://bobflies.com/ 2.4 GHz is for your home telephone... 14MZ and 72 MHz for huckin' baby!!

01-21-2007, 06:42 PM	#4
Flyinrazrback Smoking a Blunt with Yoda Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Ft. Smith, AR Posts: 2,648	Re: DA 85 or DA 100? Put the 85 on a pipe, and then you will have the extra power you are looking for with less cost than the 100 and still less weight.

01-21-2007, 06:53 PM	#7
3D_Kid Bad-ass Super Contributer! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Ohio Age: 22 Posts: 711	Re: DA 85 or DA 100? What about a canister setup Gremlin?

01-21-2007, 06:56 PM	#8
Eury A fifth of Peter. Join Date: May 2006 Location: Ankeny, IA USA Age: 35 Posts: 770	Re: DA 85 or DA 100? Not really something you can make a decision on, they haven't released any specs for the 85 yet.

01-21-2007, 07:02 PM	#9
Flyinrazrback Smoking a Blunt with Yoda Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Ft. Smith, AR Posts: 2,648	Re: DA 85 or DA 100? There is not much midrange loss with a pipe if you set it up correctly, most of those issues come from folks who dont know how a pipe works.

01-21-2007, 09:33 PM	#12
notorious_benny IMAC wannabe! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Griffith, NSW, Australia Age: 31 Posts: 3,374 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	Re: DA 85 or DA 100? In that case I would guess that the 85 on a pipe would pull out of the hover with good authority if the performace of some of the other 80 class singles in the market is anything to go on. Again, if I was flying IMAC with it I would put the most power feasable up front. __________________ Look out Ulimited in 2011!!!

01-21-2007, 09:36 PM	#13
GremlinX Father of the Scale Furum Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Chapel Hill, TN Age: 34 Posts: 4,577	Re: DA 85 or DA 100? Thanks Benny... __________________ "I'll have the roast duck with the mango salsa" Kit builders check out.... http://bobflies.com/ 2.4 GHz is for your home telephone... 14MZ and 72 MHz for huckin' baby!!

01-21-2007, 10:52 PM	#14
sweetpea If you can't HUCK it BLING IT! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Just Moved.......Hampton VA Age: 37 Posts: 9,264 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 2	Re: DA 85 or DA 100? Me personally.....the 100. You can put it in so many more planes than the 85. Also easier to sell when you decide to step up to IMAC and get yourself a 150 40%er.. __________________ Offical Member of Team Caribou Lou "Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world. But the U.S. ARMED FORCES don't have that problem." ...Ronald Reagan

01-22-2007, 04:33 PM	#15
The Dirt Doctor Bad-ass Super Contributer! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Vicksburg, MS Age: 65 Posts: 1,320	Re: DA 85 or DA 100? Hey Sweatpea, one doesn't necessarily need a 40%'er to be competitive in IMAC!! 40%'ers are just the rage now-a-days but you don't need one to be competitive!! Bobby

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