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JVDO · 02-01-2007, 12:44 PM

Hi I have a question... does anybody knows wich engine that mark leseberg uses on his extra??? Any pictures or something...

I also can't find the video of him flying together with jason krauss again... does anybody has got a link?

Diablo2006 · 02-01-2007, 01:01 PM

He uses the Hacker Quad system, basically its 4 Hacker C50-XL Comp motors all geared together

http://www.hackerbrushless.com/motors_c50quad.shtml

JVDO · 02-01-2007, 01:14 PM

ah ... because right now hacker has the A200 !!!
Power of a 150-200CC engine!!!

It's about the price of a DA 150 with canisters

I thought that was the engine...

Hinckley Bill · 02-01-2007, 01:28 PM

If you were to add in the cost of the batteries and the controllers what would the "real" total cost for a system be?

IShootSharpStix · 02-01-2007, 01:35 PM

	Quote: Originally Posted by Hinckley Bill
	If you were to add in the cost of the batteries and the controllers what would the "real" total cost for a system be?

Prohibitive???

JVDO · 02-01-2007, 04:37 PM

The price I ment (1500€) is the price of engine + controller... so only the battery's left but! you don't need to buy fuel tanks, ignition battery etc...
AND you have an electric plane

SleepyC · 02-01-2007, 04:41 PM

The batteries needed for one flight are around $6000.(US)
Thast A LOT of Flight batteries and Fuel tanks, and Gas for 3 years!

JVDO · 02-01-2007, 04:53 PM

I don't think the battery's would cost so much!!! I'll check at a local dealer!

bodywerks · 02-01-2007, 05:06 PM

	Quote: Originally Posted by JVDO
	ah ... because right now hacker has the A200 !!! Power of a 150-200CC engine!!! It's about the price of a DA 150 with canisters I thought that was the engine...

Those aren't available in the US yet, but there was an A150 in a QQ 102"Yak out there that belonged to Jason Kraus. It had wicked power on a 12S and 29X12 Mejzlik, but was estimated to eat up 200 amps with that setup - OUCH!

Greyhoundman · 02-01-2007, 05:23 PM

I shudder to think how much the batteries would cost for a 40% plane. I investigated the cost to go electric with my 30% yak and the motor and esc were not that expensive......BUT the cost of a single battery for a single 12-15 minute flight was $600 (us). Since I don't like to fly once and then charge batteries all day I would have needed at least 3 $600 batteries just to be able to fly multiple times. Thats just a little too steep for me think I'll stay with gas for now.

SleepyC · 02-02-2007, 08:14 AM

Thats the problem.. the price. And the charge time.

Also, I got the $6000 price tag from an article in sport Flyer magazine.
They were talking about the 40% raven that was at the masters and it showed the battery pack , and it said $6000 US.. and from the amount of cells laying there i believe it. And I know that Marks Dalton takes just as many packs... so I would say $4000 - $6000 worth of batteries is very realistic.

THATS A LOT OF SCRATCH!!

HeliKyna · 02-05-2007, 12:45 PM

Mark's Extra was flying on the Hacker Quad sytem. The Quad is four C50 Competition motors on a 6.9:1 gear drive. It also needs four MAS 90-Acro esc's and two 10S Lipo packs.

With the release of the New A100, A150, and A200 Hacker Outrunners, they will no longer be making the C50 Quad system.

The A100, A150 and A200's are proving to be more powerful than the quad and at about half of the cost. These outrunners will run on one esc and will require only 12-14S! Which also helps to keep the costs down.

We anticipate them being ready for shipment by March.

Best Regards,

Kyna Veatch
Office Manager
Hacker Brushless USA

Manuel Santos · 02-05-2007, 02:57 PM

Hi Eskyna do you have more specs of the Motors specialy A200?

HeliKyna · 03-07-2007, 06:27 PM

Hola Manuel!

Perdón, acabo de ver su mensaje.

The A200 will be capable of 15,000W on 14S Lipo!! It weighs 5.7lbs., has a kv of 151 and will use the new Hacker SPIN-300 amp esc. It's going to be awesome power and retail for motor and controller is only $1649.00.

Are you going to ETOC this year?

Kyna

Manuel Santos · 03-08-2007, 01:10 PM

hi Eskyna thanks for the answer, another question, how much does the battery and esc will cost and ,whow much waigth the battery and the esc, and also the battery capacity, the charger,and the most important, when is it going to be abailable?

i´m going to toledo show but not compete this year.... will see you there....
thanks and we keep in touch..

Manuel.

02-01-2007, 12:44 PM	#1
JVDO Bad-ass Super Contributer! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Europe, Belgium Age: 23 Posts: 711	Mark leseberg Electric EXtra Hi I have a question... does anybody knows wich engine that mark leseberg uses on his extra??? Any pictures or something... I also can't find the video of him flying together with jason krauss again... does anybody has got a link? __________________ Team Extreme Flight RC, Hitec, Desert Aircraft, Hacker, PowerBox Systems, JerseyModeler, TopFuel Batteries, ModelGlasses, Aerobertics.be, Vess Props, HigherPlaneProductions

02-01-2007, 01:01 PM	#2
Diablo2006 www.freestyle-rc.co.uk Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Norfolk - United Kingdom Age: 22 Posts: 226	Re: Mark leseberg Electric EXtra He uses the Hacker Quad system, basically its 4 Hacker C50-XL Comp motors all geared together http://www.hackerbrushless.com/motors_c50quad.shtml __________________ www.freestyle-rc.co.uk

02-01-2007, 01:14 PM	#3
JVDO Bad-ass Super Contributer! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Europe, Belgium Age: 23 Posts: 711	Re: Mark leseberg Electric EXtra ah ... because right now hacker has the A200 !!! Power of a 150-200CC engine!!! It's about the price of a DA 150 with canisters I thought that was the engine... __________________ Team Extreme Flight RC, Hitec, Desert Aircraft, Hacker, PowerBox Systems, JerseyModeler, TopFuel Batteries, ModelGlasses, Aerobertics.be, Vess Props, HigherPlaneProductions

02-01-2007, 01:28 PM	#4
Hinckley Bill Bad-ass Super Contributer! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hinckley Illinois Posts: 1,045	Re: Mark leseberg Electric EXtra If you were to add in the cost of the batteries and the controllers what would the "real" total cost for a system be?

02-01-2007, 04:37 PM	#6
JVDO Bad-ass Super Contributer! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Europe, Belgium Age: 23 Posts: 711	Re: Mark leseberg Electric EXtra The price I ment (1500€) is the price of engine + controller... so only the battery's left but! you don't need to buy fuel tanks, ignition battery etc... AND you have an electric plane __________________ Team Extreme Flight RC, Hitec, Desert Aircraft, Hacker, PowerBox Systems, JerseyModeler, TopFuel Batteries, ModelGlasses, Aerobertics.be, Vess Props, HigherPlaneProductions

02-01-2007, 04:41 PM	#7
SleepyC Thanks for the Support! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: USA, OH, Aurora Age: 40 Posts: 22,071 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 4	Re: Mark leseberg Electric EXtra The batteries needed for one flight are around $6000.(US) Thast A LOT of Flight batteries and Fuel tanks, and Gas for 3 years! __________________ Get the most current up-to-date R/C modeling news: www.flyinggiants.com www.rcgroups.com www.crackroll.com www.rccars.com

02-01-2007, 04:53 PM	#8
JVDO Bad-ass Super Contributer! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Europe, Belgium Age: 23 Posts: 711	Re: Mark leseberg Electric EXtra I don't think the battery's would cost so much!!! I'll check at a local dealer! __________________ Team Extreme Flight RC, Hitec, Desert Aircraft, Hacker, PowerBox Systems, JerseyModeler, TopFuel Batteries, ModelGlasses, Aerobertics.be, Vess Props, HigherPlaneProductions

02-01-2007, 05:23 PM	#10
Greyhoundman GRRRR Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Ofallon, MO Age: 33 Posts: 1,216	Re: Mark leseberg Electric EXtra I shudder to think how much the batteries would cost for a 40% plane. I investigated the cost to go electric with my 30% yak and the motor and esc were not that expensive......BUT the cost of a single battery for a single 12-15 minute flight was $600 (us). Since I don't like to fly once and then charge batteries all day I would have needed at least 3 $600 batteries just to be able to fly multiple times. Thats just a little too steep for me think I'll stay with gas for now.

02-02-2007, 08:14 AM	#11
SleepyC Thanks for the Support! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: USA, OH, Aurora Age: 40 Posts: 22,071 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 4	Re: Mark leseberg Electric EXtra Thats the problem.. the price. And the charge time. Also, I got the $6000 price tag from an article in sport Flyer magazine. They were talking about the 40% raven that was at the masters and it showed the battery pack , and it said $6000 US.. and from the amount of cells laying there i believe it. And I know that Marks Dalton takes just as many packs... so I would say $4000 - $6000 worth of batteries is very realistic. THATS A LOT OF SCRATCH!! __________________ Get the most current up-to-date R/C modeling news: www.flyinggiants.com www.rcgroups.com www.crackroll.com www.rccars.com

02-05-2007, 12:45 PM	#12
HeliKyna Gettin' Lower! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Tempe, AZ Age: 34 Posts: 45	Re: Mark leseberg Electric EXtra Mark's Extra was flying on the Hacker Quad sytem. The Quad is four C50 Competition motors on a 6.9:1 gear drive. It also needs four MAS 90-Acro esc's and two 10S Lipo packs. With the release of the New A100, A150, and A200 Hacker Outrunners, they will no longer be making the C50 Quad system. The A100, A150 and A200's are proving to be more powerful than the quad and at about half of the cost. These outrunners will run on one esc and will require only 12-14S! Which also helps to keep the costs down. We anticipate them being ready for shipment by March. Best Regards, Kyna Veatch Office Manager Hacker Brushless USA

02-05-2007, 02:57 PM	#13
Manuel Santos Bad-ass Super Contributer! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Mexico City Posts: 276 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 2	Re: Mark leseberg Electric EXtra Hi Eskyna do you have more specs of the Motors specialy A200? __________________ TEAM FUTABA TEAM AEROWORKS FROMECO DESERT AIRCRAFT DALTON AVIATION ShulmanAviation, HPP ,AeroGraphix Last edited by Manuel Santos; 02-05-2007 at 03:04 PM.

03-07-2007, 06:27 PM	#14
HeliKyna Gettin' Lower! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Tempe, AZ Age: 34 Posts: 45	Re: Mark leseberg Electric EXtra Hola Manuel! Perdón, acabo de ver su mensaje. The A200 will be capable of 15,000W on 14S Lipo!! It weighs 5.7lbs., has a kv of 151 and will use the new Hacker SPIN-300 amp esc. It's going to be awesome power and retail for motor and controller is only $1649.00. Are you going to ETOC this year? Kyna

03-08-2007, 01:10 PM	#15
Manuel Santos Bad-ass Super Contributer! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Mexico City Posts: 276 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 2	Re: Mark leseberg Electric EXtra hi Eskyna thanks for the answer, another question, how much does the battery and esc will cost and ,whow much waigth the battery and the esc, and also the battery capacity, the charger,and the most important, when is it going to be abailable? i´m going to toledo show but not compete this year.... will see you there.... thanks and we keep in touch.. Manuel. __________________ TEAM FUTABA TEAM AEROWORKS FROMECO DESERT AIRCRAFT DALTON AVIATION ShulmanAviation, HPP ,AeroGraphix Last edited by Manuel Santos; 03-08-2007 at 03:46 PM.

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