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02-15-2007, 07:18 PM
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Noll CV Brakes
I have decided to name my break system for my Vrolet. The "Noll CV (constant velocity) Brakes”. It seems to be very popular! The airbrake system will be available from Fancy Foam in the near future along with some other great things I am very excited about!
Best Wishes and Happy Flying, Jason Noll |
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02-15-2007, 10:53 PM
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Re: Noll CV Brakes
Jason,
You were on to something there. I've seen those setups popping up everywhere. Glad they finally have a name. I was calling them the Jason Noll air strainers!
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02-15-2007, 10:54 PM
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Bad-ass Super Contributer!
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Re: Noll CV Brakes
Jason,
Did you experiment alot with size, number of holes, and location. We were all impressed with the extremely slow uplines and downlines acheived with your model. Has it affected your prop choice at all? Also did you notice any adverse effects in handling?
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02-15-2007, 11:38 PM
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Re: Noll CV Brakes
Yes, the size is very crutial. To much meant to much drag for lift and the airplane flew like crap. To little, well, was just to little. The amount of holes was basically the same principal. More holes equaled more drag, but alos created weird air. With the increased drag you obviously need more thrust. So, now comes the problem of keeing the aircraft light. I have manages to find the right motor, prop, battery and weight ratio to achieve all this. My AUW for the Vrolet you see in the picture above is 4.7oz RTF. The new AXI 2203/46 with a 8x4 GWS DD prop on a 2 cell 300 or 480 works excellent.
This is what makes my brake system so different. It's floating so it's off the control surface, its outboard of any control surface that the disturbed air can't flow over and at the same time it really helps the torsional twist of both the ailerons giving you a solid, axial roll feel. Jason Hope this makes sense, Jason |
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02-15-2007, 11:40 PM
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Re: Noll CV Brakes
AWESOME demo at the E-fest, jason! I love the "noll CV brakes", quite impressive stuff. i'm looking forward to see what Fancyfoam has in the works!
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02-15-2007, 11:47 PM
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Re: Noll CV Brakes
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02-15-2007, 11:50 PM
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Re: Noll CV Brakes
Thanks!! I hope it inspires more people to take the initiative to go out and try new things to take this hobby even farther than it already has become!
Jason |
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02-15-2007, 11:57 PM
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Re: Noll CV Brakes
OMG WOW! Great vid Wayne! Jason, that's even a way cut above what we were seeing at the ETOC last year! Nice and slooooooow! Lookin' good dude, and great innovation.
MD
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02-16-2007, 12:02 AM
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Re: Noll CV Brakes
Thanks bud!
See you soon. I'll be practicing!!! POST THOSE KNOWNS! Jason |
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02-16-2007, 07:36 AM
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Re: Noll CV Brakes
Jason these airbrakes looks HUGE, it is naturally they make flying speed much slower. Really impressive video by the way! What is flying time difference betwen Vrolet with and without VC air brakes? In any case i think such airbrakes are good for European F3P-A type sequence that don't have snap rolls. We all know foamy can't do reall snap roll, they only make close looking flip, i suspect such airbrakes will make SR look even worse? Em i wrong?
Here is one picture from F3P competition in Carvin, France (2004), Martin Muler and C.P.L.R. sit next to MM F3P plane: http://www.indoorpapst.de/album/carv.../PICT0045.html Anyway it looks interesting idea and best way to find answers is to test them  So i will try something like this on my next F3P plane. By the way what is RTF weight of Vrolet in this video?
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02-16-2007, 07:49 AM
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Re: Noll CV Brakes
Donatas, they actually make the snap look pretty good! Jason, could you post some close ups of the structure of the plane? Seeing 3 mm Depron milled out to 1.5 mm and the thought that went in to the lightening process blew me away. Known to come shortly.
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02-16-2007, 08:32 AM
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Re: Noll CV Brakes
Bobby!!!
I will post pictures AFTER the ETOC. I can't give all my secrets away  . Bob is correct, it does snap a little better. The AUW w/ battery of the plane is 4.7oz.Jason |
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02-16-2007, 11:16 AM
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Re: Noll CV Brakes
Jason, very nice flying. However, give me a call and I'll give you Biff's new cell number...I'm sure he will be able to give you some ideas and help clean up your flying. Look at what he's done for QQ, Leesburg, Hyde and the like. I hear he's been working with Tucker and Wagstaff as well, but he's so humble he'd never tell you that himself.
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02-16-2007, 11:25 AM
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Re: Noll CV Brakes
I have been using Noll CV's for about a month now and could not imagine what flying pattern would be like with out them. Jason really out did himself with this innovation and I believe this is the next big step in this hobby!! Thanks Jason!!!
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02-22-2007, 04:18 PM
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Re: Noll CV Brakes
your gonna be flying skids again?
ryan what aileron servo are u using |
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