FlyingGiants Exclusive! Introducing The Futaba 12FG, Modules & More!

[Dangerous Dan]

I currently have a 9Z and 2 PCM crystaled futaba receivers in my 42% dalton.

Looks like my options ore:

Get the modules for my 9z and 2 2.4 receivers
Get the module for my 9Z and 1 2.4 receiver
( I prefer 2 if it can be done, duplicate or elimimate any single point failure)
Get a 12fg 1 or 2 receivers
Get a 12Z module and 1 or 2 receivers

Besides being built for 2.4 does the 12fg have any other advantages over the 12z?

I would prefer to have the option to have 72mkz or 2.4ghz since i have a lot of other planes and receivers on 72mhz.


Would my 9z if upgraded with the module be as fast as a 12z or 12fg?


When are we gonna see a price list.

I have a feeling that with wireless routers and cordless phones and and cell phones being near the 2.4ghz range that this technology in our radios will get cheaper before it gets more expensive due to the comercial volume avalibility of parts.

[Fixed Wing]

If you update a 12Z with the new transmitter module would it still work with Futaba's R5014/R5114 synthesized receivers? In other words, would the transmitter be backward compatible with non-FASST receivers? I hope so because I would get some planes updated with new receivers but still have planes with non-FASST receivers I'd want to fly with the 12Z anyway until I was able to convert all my receivers over time.

[Mithrandir]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Fixed Wing
	If you update a 12Z with the new transmitter module would it still work with Futaba's R5014/R5114 synthesized receivers? In other words, would the transmitter be backward compatible with non-FASST receivers? I hope so because I would get some planes updated with new receivers but still have planes with non-FASST receivers I'd want to fly with the 12Z anyway until I was able to convert all my receivers over time.

Remove the FASST Rf Module, Insert 72 Mhz module... wah-lah!!! (Voila )

[Judge]

Information that I have seen says that failsafe is programmed through the transmitter. It will apparently function much like current PCM failsafe. Low throttle setting and other controls either set to hold or go to a programmed position.

[OverTemp]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Dangerous Dan
	Seriously Can you use two RX's with this System? Judge need not reply.

Bump

[paffy]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Judge
	Information that I have seen says that failsafe is programmed through the transmitter. It will apparently function much like current PCM failsafe. Low throttle setting and other controls either set to hold or go to a programmed position.

I'm sure the 12FG will work that way. I can imagine the 12Z and 14Z could as well with some software glue.

What I really want to see how it's going to be done on a 9Z ?

P.

[Dangerous Dan]

I am curious about the 9Z as well

[Judge]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Fixed Wing
	If you update a 12Z with the new transmitter module would it still work with Futaba's R5014/R5114 synthesized receivers? In other words, would the transmitter be backward compatible with non-FASST receivers? I hope so because I would get some planes updated with new receivers but still have planes with non-FASST receivers I'd want to fly with the 12Z anyway until I was able to convert all my receivers over time.

Since no hardware changes are required to use the SS modules I cannot see why you can not go back and forth. On the 14MZ I go from 50 to 72 with a touch of the screen. I suspect the SS will work the same way.

[Tor]

	Quote: Originally Posted by toprudder
	Unless the other module makers can decipher the 2048 G3 PCM, they have to use PPM. ... If this is the only way to get some 2.4ghz modules to work with my 12 channel radio, sorry, I won't buy it.

Hi Bob
Futaba just upgraded the software to provide 12 channel PPM - we don't know yet if the Futaba modules use PPM or not.

[PGR]

	Quote: Originally Posted by LarryMagoo
	I just was going over the 12FG specs again and I noticed that this Tx runs on a 6 Cell Batt rather than the normal 8 cell. Must be this new system does not require the same voltage as thr 72MHz stuff.

It all has to do with the components they use. These radios are made with low volt-low current ICs. 72MHz Multiplex Evos have been using low volt-low current stuff for years with great success. My Evo-9 will run for close to 8 hours on a charge and it has the stock 1500mAh 6-cell NiMH pack in it.

If the 12FG proves to be anywhere near as efficient, that - in and of itself - may be good reason to upgrade to a new radio rather than a new module.

I have a sneakin' suspicion that this Futaba news is only one of several revelations we'll see 'tween now and the end of the Toledo show.

Pete

[Dantley]

Anyone know if the antenna on the 12/14mz can be swapped with one similar to the 12FG?

[ycchu]

	Quote: Originally Posted by chasrb
	Okay at 148000 Yen that is about USD 1250.00 Not too bad...

That is NOT a 2.4G radio (just good old FM).

[torquen]

Paffy, I believe the failsafe is controlled right through the radio just like you would on PCM. I think this is the same way the FASST 6 channel works but don't hold that to me

When DK said I don't care about two way communication that is not totally true. I just don't see it being a real benefit. Most of the things they have mentioned are not even on the market such as Fuel level sensors, fuel flow sensors, air pressure sensors ect. Where is this stuff going to transmit too? If it transmits to a computer or PDA how are you going to look over and see this while your flying? To me its hard enough to take my eyes off the plane to find a trim button or look at the timer. "This is my opinion" and this is why having different products will hopefully solve everyones needs.

But DK not to burst your bubble, most people have always liked to stick with the name brand products over aftermarket. What will happen when people start sticking aftermarket Modules in their radios and have a short or something? Is this going to be a warranty issue now? Just like in cars when you start swapping parts your warranty starts to go down the tube.

The Futaba FASST module is a true module based Spectrum system for Futaba. Notice there does not need to be any jumper cords going into a buddy box.

DK, I don't think most people are saying Futaba is any better than XPS. But many people have said throughout these forums when a radio company comes out with a 9 channel or above system on 2.4 they would go for it no matter what company it was. Futaba has not only hit that goal but exceeded it.

To the few people that said they are mad about buying a radio last season and now this comes out. Why would you be mad? In this world today when you make a decision to buy something you better be sure you like the product as it is right that second because the next day something better may come out. Computer and cars are notorious for improving just about overnight. The nice thing is Futaba has made it easy for you to upgrade at a much lower price than buying a completely new radio system.

Lets keep these posts civil and about Futaba just as Max has stated a few times.
Garrett Morrison

[torquen]

	Quote: Originally Posted by PGR
	It all has to do with the components they use. These radios are made with low volt-low current ICs. 72MHz Multiplex Evos have been using low volt-low current stuff for years with great success. My Evo-9 will run for close to 8 hours on a charge and it has the stock 1500mAh 6-cell NiMH pack in it. If the 12FG proves to be anywhere near as efficient, that - in and of itself - may be good reason to upgrade to a new radio rather than a new module. I have a sneakin' suspicion that this Futaba news is only one of several revelations we'll see 'tween now and the end of the Toledo show. Pete

The 12 and 14 channel Futaba Radios use a Li-ion pack. Its the same type of pack that a camcorder uses. My 14mz seems to go forever on a charge and I really love this feature.
Garrett

[Dangerous Dan]

HOW DO YOU RANGE CHECK WITH THE SHORTER NON COLAPISIBLE ANTENNA?