Heads up H9 extra 260 owners

[hillmanr2]

Well besides adding longer linkage screws and locktighting them there is one other thing that really should be done to make this plane way, way better.
GLUE THE STABS TO THE SIDE OF THE PLANE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Due to recent events I had to put together a new Hanger 9 extra 260. This time I glued the stabs to the plane and put in the 4-40 screws as backup. I had hundreds of flights on the old one that was built per instructions. On the first flight I noticed the difference and the second flight really showed the difference.
Trust me, cut the covering and glue them on!!!

[yakwrecker]

I have a dumb question for the manufacturers that put the servo in the side of the fuse but then make a removable stab set-up. The reason i say this is because there is no good way to remove the linkage to get it off and have it accuratly go on. In turn you end up with a possibly sloppy mount and no good way to glue in place. My showtime is this way so i coated the tube and anti-rotation pin with epoxy and pushed those puppies on there good. It just really makes no sense at all.

[ericb]

What difference did you notice? My stabs are a touch loose, and I was thinking of doing this. Did you have to do any sanding to get them to fit tightly?

[hillmanr2]

	Quote: Originally Posted by ericb
	What difference did you notice? My stabs are a touch loose, and I was thinking of doing this. Did you have to do any sanding to get them to fit tightly?

The plane is a ton more accurate and it will do awesome walls. On my old one I added silicone to tighten it up but I could still move them about 1/16. Then I just kind of forgot about it.
Anywho it made a huge noticeable difference. The true problem is the stab tubes do not fit tightly in the fuse outer tube causing play. It is a bad design but a little 30min epoxy quickly solves it. My stabs did not require any sanding.

[hipollito]

I am finishing my extra 260 and I noticed that there wasn´t a tight fit with the stabs....so I added some little double sided tape pieces on the side of the stabs, so it will fit tight, I had to push both stabs together a little hard so that the screw will go in to the hole, now I have a really nice fit, haven´t flown it yet but I was thinking some days ago to paste the stabs, I think I will do it eventually...
I had the same problem with my showtime, and the tube moved a little inside the fuse, I used epoxy and that was it, again I had to push the stabs together a little hard to be able to install the screw and today all the harriers I did were rock solid...

[Fly-guy]

I ended up gluing mine in even before I flew it because the fit was so crap. I added a 1/16" shim on one side and now there is a gap no bigger than a playing card.

As someone mentioned earlier haivng removable stabs on a plane where the servo is in the fuse is juts useless anyway because there is no way easy to take them on and off. One thought I had though was taking them off but leaving them connected and rotating so they ran parallel to the fuz.

I'd say glue them on anyway.

[manzer74]

to be honest I never thought of glueing in the stabs...When i get home tomorrow night they are getting glued in. I hope this makes a noticable difference.

[randy racer]

i glue the stab tube in on all of my planes but don't normaly glue the stab unless they get loose, just in case i need to remove them to work on them.

randy

[yoyosmuggler]

I did the same thing on my extra 330s over the winter. Haven't had a chance to get out this year yet to see how it flys, but its got to be better.

[Supermod56]

I don't know why they make the stabs removeable on these "little" planes, especially with the servo in the fuse!!! So I glue em all on, will do the same on this one. How are you guys liking this plane with the DA 50? I got one for it, but was thinking of the new Saito 220 also, and maybe the DA on something else.

Tom

[airborneSGT]

With my H9 260 I noticed the same before I even flew it. To remedy it this is what I did:

1. Glued the stab tube into one of the stabs.
2. Attached the stabs and used canopy glue to take up any of the gap and ensure a tight fit
3. Sealed the bottom with clear Ultracote

Doing this my stabs were rock solid as compared to my friend's planes.

[Dangerous Dan]

If you are talking about the 27% be careful, a friends fluttered to death on the maiden, what a way to go. He was using stock hardware and 1.5" Dubro HD servo arms

[Dangerous Dan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgTzdtVxYuM

Need I say more?

[go29kev]

i have had two of the h9 260's and the last one bit the dust at joe nall last year. when i had time to inspect the crash damege after i got back home i had found that all the glue joints are falling apart and the glue is rolling off the wood like it never tried to bond with the wood and i now am 100% sure that the plane started to come apart at a glue joint causing the flutters (because every thing machanical was perfect befor the plane left the ground but fludering from weeking of the joints) and leading to the crash. so everybody needs to check the glue joints and run a little thin ca over all of them u can reach. the glue is very poor and i want to help keep someone from losing a plane like i did...
i am not the only one finding this problem i have read a bunch of ppl on this site saying they found that the joints were falling apart. i rebuilt the crashed plane with a new fuse that i got and the very first thing i found was bad glue joints so i have took the extra time and reglued the joints and it fixed the problems. also i have had three of the carbon main gear split and two of them after a perfect smoth landing on the first flight so watch it very close. asking h9 about that a $55 gear should not delaminate like that but i love the plane it is a great flying plane its just a piss poor job by h9 in the glueing prosses that is the problem.

[hillmanr2]

I have also come across some less than stellar glue joints. The stock gear is unbelievable. This is a reply I was given from horizon about the gear:

	Quote:
	Russ, Sorry to hear about the problems with your landing gear. The CF gear is lightweight and strong, but not very forgiving when it comes to a hard set-down, or rough runway. A slight crack from a hard landing or bounce can continue to worsen with the bumps and jolts of runway or field. There is an aluminum set available, part number HAN2759AL if you prefer. I will forward your comments of concern on to the Product Development dept. I hope you find this information useful.

I should also point out that the first arf I had Horizon sent me the aluminum gear free of charge through my LHS. This arf I bought new in box off a fellow modeler so I was not expecting anything special.

I have really enjoyed this plane and many other H9 arfs but I think me and arfs are going to part ways soon