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zzw26n · 04-12-2007, 06:40 PM

Hitec Team,

Setting up a 35% Sukhio and the following is my Servo choice, any comments or thoughts?

(2) HS-5985's per Wing
(1) HS-5955 per Elevator half
(2) HS-5955's on Rudder
(1) HS-5965 on Throttle

I see that the HS-5985's a have a Karbonite Gear, any field issues to report? Any Big Servo SALE's going on that we should know about?

regards, Ward

3ddd · 04-12-2007, 06:42 PM

well i think you have it covered pretty well

Stainless Skills · 04-12-2007, 06:53 PM

try troybuiltmodels.com

they usually have good prices on servo's and I think if you sign up for their email letter you get slightly better prices.

getting 5955's for $95 is pretty nice there too.

flying232 · 04-13-2007, 12:42 AM

Just my opinion but I would not use any Karbonite gear servos. I had some I was going to use and read alot about them that they can not handle the vibration of gas planes. Also if you use locktite on the servo arm screw this will deteriorate the karbonite and it will become brittle and break. You might do a search or go to the hitec support forum on rcuniverse and read about these before using them. I used mine on the throtle and choke instead of surfaces.

Mike
Mike's Custom R/C

RustyTumbles · 04-13-2007, 02:35 AM

I'm planning on using 5955TG's all round (except throttle) on my new 35%.

joenella · 04-13-2007, 03:29 AM

Almost any servo with metalgear have a carbonite/nylon gear in it, normally first gear train in the servo are not metal, there is no problem at that stage in the gearbox.

Joen

JEFFRO503 · 04-13-2007, 11:51 AM

NO........the 5985's have a METAL GEAR........they are great servo's! I wouldn't install any Karbonite gears on a 35% either , but the 5985's are metal. I was going with the exact same set up on my sukoi as well. The pair of 5985's on each wing should be way more than efficeint i beleive.

joenella · 04-13-2007, 03:15 PM

Hi Jeff
Have a look at this link: http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXMYJ5&P=X
You'll notice that the first gear in the train are carbonite, but the torque that's going into the first gear are very small so no fear about this. Second will a metal gear in first stage be able to make electrical noise.
It is not only Hitec have a look at Futaba:http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXCSW8&P=X

brgds
Joen

3ddd · 04-13-2007, 04:59 PM

ALL servos have at least one soft gear in them

GremlinX · 04-13-2007, 05:37 PM

I did the same exact thing to the T from www.troybuiltmodels.com

zzw26n · 04-13-2007, 05:49 PM

thanks Guys .....

I just gor back from Toledo, what a spread! Saw Max, Wayne, BBW,Snapasorus, Tank, Wizard, and FG Team. The Guys recognized my new FG Shirt and set me up with a Name Badge and warm welcome! I wanted my opicture with Max, but he was busy taking pictures with two other people.

FG is the best ...

bodywerks · 04-14-2007, 02:33 AM

those 5985's will be fine...

Mike Mayberry · 04-18-2007, 03:15 PM

Hey guys,

Note that the inner gear on the first gear in the Hitec servos is metal. We call this an M/K gear (metal/karbonite.) In the past, we had an M/P gear which was metal/plastic (nylon,) but went to the M/K gear with the titanium geared servos for a little extra strength (not that we ever broke the M/P gears.) We now use it in all the high end metal geared servos. We have never had one break in normal conditions so there is no need to worry, it will not strip.

FYI: Hitec was the first to have this hybrid first gear and some others have now adopted it, but some still use an all nylon first gear.

The reasoning behind this is that there needs to be a buffer between the motor and the metal gear train. We tried all metal in the past but when the lube wore off there was RF noise which caused occational glitches.

I hope this helps clear things up.

Mike Mayberry
Hitec RCD USA.

bodywerks · 04-18-2007, 04:58 PM

Thanks, Mike. Will we see brushless hitecs any time in the future?

Mike Mayberry · 04-19-2007, 12:47 PM

Any time in the future is a broad statement... so I'd say yes then.

What if I said we would have a line of high power Ti geared servos that ranged from ultra speed to ultra torque and would run on an unregulated 2 cell Lipo/Li-Io? Is this something that sounds appealing?

Mike.

04-12-2007, 06:40 PM	#1
zzw26n Bad-ass Super Contributer! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Shelby Twp., MI, USA Posts: 1,855 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 2	Hitec Servo's for 35% Set-up Hitec Team, Setting up a 35% Sukhio and the following is my Servo choice, any comments or thoughts? (2) HS-5985's per Wing (1) HS-5955 per Elevator half (2) HS-5955's on Rudder (1) HS-5965 on Throttle I see that the HS-5985's a have a Karbonite Gear, any field issues to report? Any Big Servo SALE's going on that we should know about? regards, Ward

04-12-2007, 06:42 PM	#2
3ddd tissue ? cry baby jack wagon! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: pyote,texas Age: 58 Posts: 2,651	Re: Hitec Servo's for 35% Set-up well i think you have it covered pretty well __________________ Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave >safely and in a well preserved body,but rather to skid in > sideways,totally screwed up,worn out,shouting,"oh damn what a fine ride! AMA 98634 > HEY I GOT A DIVORCE----HELL YEA > Futaba, FROMECO:a good way to get a charge out of life,,3w all the way for a good day

04-12-2007, 06:53 PM	#3
Stainless Skills Bad-ass Super Contributer! Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 801	Re: Hitec Servo's for 35% Set-up try troybuiltmodels.com they usually have good prices on servo's and I think if you sign up for their email letter you get slightly better prices. getting 5955's for $95 is pretty nice there too.

04-13-2007, 12:42 AM	#4
flying232 Gettin' Lower! Join Date: May 2006 Location: springdale, arkansas Posts: 38	Re: Hitec Servo's for 35% Set-up Just my opinion but I would not use any Karbonite gear servos. I had some I was going to use and read alot about them that they can not handle the vibration of gas planes. Also if you use locktite on the servo arm screw this will deteriorate the karbonite and it will become brittle and break. You might do a search or go to the hitec support forum on rcuniverse and read about these before using them. I used mine on the throtle and choke instead of surfaces. Mike Mike's Custom R/C

04-13-2007, 02:35 AM	#5
RustyTumbles Time for something New...... Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Newcastle NSW, Australia Posts: 4,819	Re: Hitec Servo's for 35% Set-up I'm planning on using 5955TG's all round (except throttle) on my new 35%. __________________ It's hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys.. www.extraaircraft.com www.scaleaeros.com.au www.desertaircraft.com.au www.theprofilebrotherhood.com www.booma-rc.com

04-13-2007, 03:29 AM	#6
joenella Uber Contributer Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Odense, Denmark Posts: 181	Re: Hitec Servo's for 35% Set-up Almost any servo with metalgear have a carbonite/nylon gear in it, normally first gear train in the servo are not metal, there is no problem at that stage in the gearbox. Joen

04-13-2007, 11:51 AM	#7
JEFFRO503 www.rcdude.com Join Date: May 2006 Location: St helens OR Age: 44 Posts: 2,062	Re: Hitec Servo's for 35% Set-up NO........the 5985's have a METAL GEAR........they are great servo's! I wouldn't install any Karbonite gears on a 35% either , but the 5985's are metal. I was going with the exact same set up on my sukoi as well. The pair of 5985's on each wing should be way more than efficeint i beleive.

04-13-2007, 03:15 PM	#8
joenella Uber Contributer Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Odense, Denmark Posts: 181	Re: Hitec Servo's for 35% Set-up Hi Jeff Have a look at this link: http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXMYJ5&P=X You'll notice that the first gear in the train are carbonite, but the torque that's going into the first gear are very small so no fear about this. Second will a metal gear in first stage be able to make electrical noise. It is not only Hitec have a look at Futaba:http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXCSW8&P=X brgds Joen

04-13-2007, 04:59 PM	#9
3ddd tissue ? cry baby jack wagon! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: pyote,texas Age: 58 Posts: 2,651	Re: Hitec Servo's for 35% Set-up ALL servos have at least one soft gear in them __________________ Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave >safely and in a well preserved body,but rather to skid in > sideways,totally screwed up,worn out,shouting,"oh damn what a fine ride! AMA 98634 > HEY I GOT A DIVORCE----HELL YEA > Futaba, FROMECO:a good way to get a charge out of life,,3w all the way for a good day

04-13-2007, 05:37 PM	#10
GremlinX Father of the Scale Furum Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Chapel Hill, TN Age: 34 Posts: 4,577	Re: Hitec Servo's for 35% Set-up I did the same exact thing to the T from www.troybuiltmodels.com __________________ "I'll have the roast duck with the mango salsa" Kit builders check out.... http://bobflies.com/ 2.4 GHz is for your home telephone... 14MZ and 72 MHz for huckin' baby!!

04-13-2007, 05:49 PM	#11
zzw26n Bad-ass Super Contributer! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Shelby Twp., MI, USA Posts: 1,855 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 2	Re: Hitec Servo's for 35% Set-up thanks Guys ..... I just gor back from Toledo, what a spread! Saw Max, Wayne, BBW,Snapasorus, Tank, Wizard, and FG Team. The Guys recognized my new FG Shirt and set me up with a Name Badge and warm welcome! I wanted my opicture with Max, but he was busy taking pictures with two other people. FG is the best ...

04-14-2007, 02:33 AM	#12
bodywerks Bad-ass Super Contributer! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Tucson Age: 36 Posts: 5,229	Re: Hitec Servo's for 35% Set-up those 5985's will be fine...

04-18-2007, 03:15 PM	#13
Mike Mayberry Bad-ass Super Contributer! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Poway, CA Posts: 704	Re: Hitec Servo's for 35% Set-up Hey guys, Note that the inner gear on the first gear in the Hitec servos is metal. We call this an M/K gear (metal/karbonite.) In the past, we had an M/P gear which was metal/plastic (nylon,) but went to the M/K gear with the titanium geared servos for a little extra strength (not that we ever broke the M/P gears.) We now use it in all the high end metal geared servos. We have never had one break in normal conditions so there is no need to worry, it will not strip. FYI: Hitec was the first to have this hybrid first gear and some others have now adopted it, but some still use an all nylon first gear. The reasoning behind this is that there needs to be a buffer between the motor and the metal gear train. We tried all metal in the past but when the lube wore off there was RF noise which caused occational glitches. I hope this helps clear things up. Mike Mayberry Hitec RCD USA.

04-18-2007, 04:58 PM	#14
bodywerks Bad-ass Super Contributer! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Tucson Age: 36 Posts: 5,229	Re: Hitec Servo's for 35% Set-up Thanks, Mike. Will we see brushless hitecs any time in the future?

04-19-2007, 12:47 PM	#15
Mike Mayberry Bad-ass Super Contributer! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Poway, CA Posts: 704	Re: Hitec Servo's for 35% Set-up Any time in the future is a broad statement... so I'd say yes then. What if I said we would have a line of high power Ti geared servos that ranged from ultra speed to ultra torque and would run on an unregulated 2 cell Lipo/Li-Io? Is this something that sounds appealing? Mike.

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