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Old 04-17-2007, 12:02 AM   #16
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Feel free......

I used no velro to hold any electronic componets in except my ignition kill. Everything is ziptie. Also every electronic has foam underneath it. That blue foam is actually a pool noodle. I'm only using that as a spacer for airflow to help cool the regs. The other components have black 1/2 foam under them.

As for the setup vs. vibration. I guess I could have put everything on a bungee and let if free float and bounce around (at least there wouldn't be vibration ). I was never a fan of wrap it in foam in my .40size planes and never have done that. I've never done that with any electronics.

This setup has flown for over 1 yr with no radio problems. The only time major vibration happens in my planes is at idle with no wings. I believe if you tighten down the airframe good the the vibration is spread throughout and ground vibration is much different than in flight. I keep my ground running time to a min.

But thanks for the critique. If you have a better way to hold things down please share, I may be willing to try.
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Old 04-17-2007, 12:10 AM   #17
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I believe that Battelle Institute has done a study showing nothing has a better isolation properties that velcro!
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Old 04-17-2007, 12:19 AM   #18
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we will see in a couple of weeks when the real reports start coming in.i just can't see why the other guys are having so much trouble all of a sudden and exl thinks they are not going to have any.i hope they are right and then they can be the only ones that got it right
What XtremeLink did different is Channel Hopping. When there is trouble with signal interference or strength, unlike other systems, XPS hops transparently to a new clear channel to correct the signal issue. Also, relink is instantaneous, not delayed as with other existing systems. Time will tell. I'll have mine tomorrow, buddy got me one in Toledo. I'll fly it in smaller planes for a week or two while others experiement too. The people I know that have used it are very happy. Hell, Darcy got Top Gun at the California Jets meet with XPS on board!
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Old 04-17-2007, 12:33 AM   #19
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While I am happy for all those who managed to get to Torledo etc this does nothing but inflame everybody else. I am in OZ and have no chance of getting one for my JR, we will be the last to get it and we still do not know if Jim has got things squared away with the authorities here.
I think Jim needs to get things rolling a bit quicker and at least tell us whats happening. I have posted in several forums regarding if things will be OKed for over here but no direct answer.
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Old 04-17-2007, 01:29 AM   #20
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Sorry to inflame you clive-- I didn't make it there either. I had a friend who was going and offered to buy one for me. He even went back Saturday in hopes there would be more after friday they sold out.

Jim is saying that sometime this week sales will start up again. I'm not privy to your problems down under though, but I hope they work out for you guys also!
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Old 04-17-2007, 01:31 AM   #21
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just using your photo for a launch point for my latest rant!!
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Old 04-17-2007, 01:54 AM   #22
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ANd I am not picking on you Mr. Pea, just using your photo for a launch point for my latest rant!!
I found the easiest way to install a receiver is using a bailing wire to a cylinder head. When using two receivers on a 40%, you should mount each one on an opposing cylinder of the engine for extra redundancy.

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Old 04-17-2007, 02:06 AM   #23
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Feel free......

But thanks for the critique. If you have a better way to hold things down please share, I may be willing to try.
As I said I was not specifically talking about your installation. Although it looks like Velcro and not foam. But be that as it may, my point still remains that I just find it interesting that we seem not to be as concerned with the use of foam in the big planes as we were with the smaller planes. And I wonder if that has anything to do with problems that get reported.

Again, for the third time, I was NOT specifically criticizing you. Sorry you chose to take it this way.


As far as my installations go, I try to use as much foam as possible. I really liked the one I saw Bill Hemple use where he suspended the radio using rubber bands.
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Old 04-17-2007, 02:12 AM   #24
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Tbere's no point in even bothering with the foam if you're going to wrap a zip-tie around it.

Don't you remember your 4-sized profile days? Zip tie a fuel tank to the fuselage (even with foam under it) and you'll get massive foaming. Use a rubber band and look -- not a bubble in sight.

The Zip tie will transfer the vibration despite the foam.

It should be remembered that even the most modern receivers still have fragile crystals and other components in the that *DO NOT* like vibration.
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Old 04-17-2007, 08:59 AM   #25
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anything mounted to foam with a zip tie will experience exagerated vibration.I like to use velcro straps.Also I have used just velcro squares to mate the rx to the surface under the rx thats the best anti vibration,espeshialy if you fly a real vibrater.
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When I tried to install my new XPS-F1 module in my Futaba 9Z I could not just unscrew my antenna and remove it so I emailed teck support. I was very pleased how fast they got back to me as they must have just got home from Toledo. I was told [Just do not extend Antenna] all told I have TWO positive experiences 1-Great tech support and 2-Module exchange is easy
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Old 04-17-2007, 10:16 AM   #27
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Hi GM, Where did you "hear?"
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Old 04-17-2007, 11:08 AM   #28
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Interesting. Jim has always maintained the antenna must be removed for proper operation.

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Old 04-17-2007, 11:55 AM   #29
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As I said I was not specifically talking about your installation. Although it looks like Velcro and not foam. But be that as it may, my point still remains that I just find it interesting that we seem not to be as concerned with the use of foam in the big planes as we were with the smaller planes. And I wonder if that has anything to do with problems that get reported.

Again, for the third time, I was NOT specifically criticizing you. Sorry you chose to take it this way.


As far as my installations go, I try to use as much foam as possible. I really liked the one I saw Bill Hemple use where he suspended the radio using rubber bands.


Oh I didn't take any offense. No worries. I was serious if you had a better way to do it let me know. I've seen the bungee install on a Comp Arf before....but thought that though there may be less vibration the bouncing up and down/side to side would be worse for my connections.

Again though.....I've never been a fan of WRAP with foam.
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Also just caught the other posts.

Rubberbands don't work in Vegas......at 115 degree temps (that's in the shade) the rubber bands weaken way to fast. I can't keep replacing them every day. I use fuel tubing on the ziptie to help pad the tie. I still have to replace those every 3-4 months though because they become brittle also.

Big note here though is this......this plane flew for over a year with no radio problems in the current setup with a 955s crystal RX. Its exactly the same setup with the XPS rx. To me that's a perfect test
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