MIXING WHEN HOVERING OR 3D??

[shadowrider]

I was wondering do you usually use mixing when hovering and 3d flying ect. I can hover for as long as I want but I am only confident enough to do it at about 100' up right now. I am slowly working lower. Just wondering if most people put mixing to a aux switch so its disabled when hovering or if you just leaving it in. I have rudder-elev, rudder-airelon, and differential right now. I have it trimmed out pretty good and can still hover unlimited with mixing in. I don't dare to get it low yet but I am working up to it. Should I set my radio to disable mixing when going into a hover or 3d flight? Thanks

[Mike c.]

I NEVER use any mixes in 3D flight or any other type of flying. If you can hover up high all day then you can do it down low. It is soo much easier down low, just don't get in the red zone. The red zone is where its too low to recover and fly, but high enough that if you went dead stick, it'll kill the plane.

[ShortBus]

If your plane wants to roll or pull when flying a straight line, what stopping it from rolling or pulling when you do a rolling circle? NOTHING!!!!!

If you can hover up high, its the same as down low! Just work your way down to a height where you feel comfortable, and then bring it lower!

[LUCKY]

Hey, shadowrider, I would have to say in mine I leave all mixes on except spoilers. I have just got to were I can bring it down to the deck. Take your time but I do think it is easier closer it is easy to what the plane needs quicker.

[Matchless]

No mixes.......

As for 100ft high, I bet if you were to see it up close, you'd see that its all over the place..... Get yourself a foamy or a good .40 size profile and get it down on the ground right in front of your nose. You won't likely learn anything until you get it down low and close.....

[CSpaced]

No mixing, just practice. You will find that the lower you bring it the easier it is to predict control inputs. Of course, sims and foamies help tremendously!

[flybye]

I leave the mixes on... It's easier to transition to knife edge, or any other maunever and not have to worry about flipping switches. I've tried with the mixes off, and I don't see any real differences. As for getting a .40 size fomy, or profile... They hover ALOT differently the the real thing, but it is good to help get down the basics. I would also suggest learing how to torque roll before hovering down low. And one final thing... Hovering low and in close is Much Much easier than up high. You can notice deviations faster, and correct them quicker.

[madmax]

Bring that baby down Shadow!!! It takes some sack, but bashing that rudder on the ground for the first time is like baptism. Mixing? I'll prolly get beat up over this, but IMO! if it's just rudder to ail and ele, it prolly won't make that much of a difference.. We're dealing with just a few degrees of throw, while 3D takes makes use of huge deflection.

Okay, let the tomato slinging begin.

[shadowrider]

Thanks, for all your suggestions. I have setup my aux switch to turn off mixing for 3d'ing. I have been practicing on a sim for hours now and I can torque roll and hover all day long on the sim. The problem is when flying the sim you don't get nervous because if you wreck just push reset button.
I am working on bringing it in lower and lower. I just finished running my last tank of gas with break in oil (Lawn boy@ 32:1) for the motor, now I am going to switch to amsoil at 50:1. The motor is running strong now and I am now confident in it to bring it down lower in a hover. I have a 3w-75us and its my first gasser. I have done electrics before this, but running a gasser has been awesome, especially with the smoke system. Can't do this with an electric!

[yooki]

If you have knife edge mixes/downline mixes etc. in the plane there is no reason to take them off when you are hovering or doing any other 3D maneuver. It's just another unneccesary switch to flip and worry about. If you try it with and without your mix you're not going to be able to notice a difference hovering and most likely rolling harriers and some other things will be better.

[mccrind]

Leave the mixing on! There is no time that they should be off. As for smaller plane for practise , I learned harrier rolling on a shock flyer and I found it was all the same inputs on the big machines. I piled in the shocky hundreds of times but have never damaged a larger machine since even after tail touches and landings from hover.

[Vic3D]

There's no reason to turn mixes off for 3D, as far as rudd-elev, rudd-ail, and thr-ele are concerned. They will not affect your flight in any way, except make it better. Not a significant factor in 3D.



<----------I can hover all day long without noticing any mixes taking over.

[Izzy]

I just leave them on for 3D and such. I found that the plane will act similarly in a high speed KE pass when applying rudder than when applying rudder in a harrier roll. so if my harrier rolls or KE elevators or any maneuver requiring a ton of rudder has roll and pitch coupling mixed out, the moves requiring less rudder are taken care of (unless, of course, you're setting up for precision). but I leave them on

[AHP]

I leave all my mixes on full time. There's no need to be flippin' switches. Besides, to some extent, something like knife edge pitch coupling can affect you in all flight attitudes. If your plane pitches to the belly hard with rudder input in knife edge, it's likely to do the same thing in a hover.