Climbing inverted flat spin

[sicvic]

Can any one help or expalin how this manuever is done in detail.
Thanks
( Climbing Iinverted flat spin )

[karlwatt]

Well, just put the plane into a regular inverted flat spin and keep adding power until it starts climbing (gaining altitude). Not all planes will do this. I'm not an aeronautical engineer, but it seems you need a plane that is light, extreme elevator throws, and lot's of power. I had an OMP Yak that could do it easily.

[Ian]

^^ what he said, but real emphasis on the LOTS OF POWER

[Stainless Skills]

You can also just harrier around inverted and then begin to make smaller and smaller circles untill you get the desired effect, this may be an easier way to enter if you are having trouble.

[JimC-MD]

You have to feel your way through it with the airframe you have. Like Karl was saying, not every plane can. I usually find some counter aileron throw and add power. The flat spin will get flatter until it either starts to climb or it powers out of it. If it can power out, note how it exits. You may need to ease off an input to get the result you want.

If you get to know a plane really well you can occasionally pull off a situation where you are holding position, not climbing or falling. Cool when you can nail that down low.

[plaster93]

Same here ,my OMP yak with a irvine 53 on a tower pipe, invert and upright climbing flatspin, The Kat 40 will also do it.

[rede2fly]

a great plane for this manuver is a mojo they do this very well. it seems that most profiles will do this. i have never seen a regular plane do this. only profiles. not saying that they cant. just saying i have never seen it done but to answere your question its really easy to do. bring it almost to a stall. add full rudder and full elevator and full power. adjust the ailerons to keep the wings level and watch it happen. the elevator may not allways have to be full. depends on how big and the servo tork. my mojo 40 would do this with a saito 72

[plaster93]

Theres a good write up on Yuri Higuchi in this months AMA, he's the guy that came up with the inverted climbing flat spin.

[torquen]

	Quote: Originally Posted by plaster93
	\ he's the guy that came up with the inverted climbing flat spin.

I read that but have to say I remember seeing Sean McMurty and Jason Shulman doing the inverted climb at the TOC before the dates mentioned in the write up.

[plaster93]

Im sure alot of guys were doing 3d before it had a name,QQ just made it known as did other top pilots.

[sl1200mk2]

I was able to do this with my .40 size UcanDO (powered by a Saito .91). It's really slick to see once you get it down. Mine would climb very slowly, so I had to be careful, but it was really fun to do. Just nail the throttle and a bit of opposite aileron.

- Wayne

[Temptation]

	Quote: Originally Posted by torquen
	I read that but have to say I remember seeing Sean McMurty and Jason Shulman doing the inverted climb at the TOC before the dates mentioned in the write up.

As soon as I finished reading the article about Yuri in MA, I knew I would read something like this on the internet. Never fails.

Mike Darr

[sicvic]

These replies are all very helpfull. Thank's to everybody. I am sure this is going to help many others.
Please keep posting.

[Dangerous Dan]

My foamys and my OMP Katana(Saito .72) will do it. I do full throttle outside loops on 3D rates and on the bottom of the second or 3rd loop (the plane is stalled) Give full 3D rudder then a little aileron to keep it flat. Cool way to enter and by adjusting throttle and elevator you can make it fall climb or stay still.

[greg young]

	Quote: Originally Posted by torquen
	I read that but have to say I remember seeing Sean McMurty and Jason Shulman doing the inverted climb at the TOC before the dates mentioned in the write up.

Your right they where, McMurty was the best at it, also i remember you putting on a demo at noon with Hempel's 50% Edge that was ground breaking in the 3D arena.