EVO or Evolution

[aerografixs]

It has come to my attention that there is confusion as to the difference between the EVO engines that I am importing from Spain and the other line called Evolution which is not the same at all.

For instance our 80cc single cylinder will turn a 27 X 14 Propeller at 5700 rpm which is a lot of power, also they are very smooth, like an electric motor.

we also have a comparison of our 150 versus the DA 150 and the 3W 150 QS, all tested the same day on the same propeller Mezjlic 32 X 10 and ours came on top also much smoother.

Anyone coming to Toledo will be able to see all 3 lines : Standard, Competition, and Magnesium Competition.

Hope to see you guys there

Roger

[bodywerks]

Cool. Again, are the weights and prices comparable to other offerings, meaning equal or lighter??? If the 80 is lighter and more powerful than the new ZDZ super80, I may be interested for a future project...

[sprice50]

Hi Roger,

Thanks for posting this. The engines look great and this clears up any confusion with Evolution.

Some performance specs would be great!

Regards,
Shaun

[torquen]

Roger, was the 27x14 and engle prop? Because they way its put people might think this is a big fat wood prop. The engle props are very thin airfoil and very thin cord wise. I had a 32x13 engle prop on my 3w 150 and you could not tell it was there.

You should let the engine sell its self, and not come on the forums stating its going to beat the competition hands down "Da and 3w" because if it doesn't your going to have some false advertisment.
Garrett Morrison

[SleepyC]

Hey guys.. keep it friendly.

I think so far there was no bad info given.
Just someone proud of the engine line they carry.

I'm sure he will post his findings and test results and people can take the information for what its worth to them.

Keep it "giants style" dudes... (Oh God, sorry for that line.... I banish myself)

[aerografixs]

I'm not sure on the propeller used but I will try and find out. for the 80 that its

I have personnaly tested the 80cc on the bench with a pefa cannister and a copy of a Menz 26*10 prop. The engine had only a few minutes on it , time to adjust the needle valves. The reading I got was 6200 rpm . I'm told after proper break in it should go at least 6600 rpm.

As for the 150 that was with a Mezjlick 32*10 prop.

No one said we had a better enging , but I have been in this hobby long enough to tell you that it is the smoothest and easiest to start that I have used.

I did love the ZDZ at the time but now I have to sell them since it wouldn't be proper for me to keep them.

I know we have a winner, but that doesn't say its better.
For the service, Forgues Research is doing it, and if I can equal the service that DA provides, I will be happy, because they are known for there good service..
The factory and myself feel that the service is of ultimate importance. so we will do our dam best to accomodate.

I hope this clears up a few misunderstanding if there was any.

We signed up Blaine Austin as a sponsored pilot and he will be using the 300cc so you will hear about him also.
Tony Russo of Dalton aviation tells me that they might be producing a 50% Extra 260, I can't wait but it could take time.
In the mean time he has the 35% and the 42%,,,,I know I'm dreaming already.

Regards
Roger

[bodywerks]

Still no mention of weights??? That is a VERY important factor when comparing it to the competition...

[STR8HUCKIN]

how about a video of one running or flying??

[KrisW]

	Quote: Originally Posted by bodywerks
	Cool. Again, are the weights and prices comparable to other offerings, meaning equal or lighter??? If the 80 is lighter and more powerful than the new ZDZ super80, I may be interested for a future project...

On the Forgues Research site they list the 150 at 3.55 kG . .or 7.8 lbs. Looking at pics of the engine you can see a lot of places they machined reliefs in things to get the weight down, and the backplate is a lot thinner than what other manufacturers use. Looks like the foreign markets are starting to produce engines comparable to what we've been using. In the last 18 months I've seen 4 new engine lines hit the US market. Competition is good. . and so is having many choices.

I find it interesting that a Magnesium version of the engines is available, and that the ignitions can handle up to 9.0 volt Lithium packs.

Perhaps you could post some actual comparative RPM figures for us Roger, using the same prop on the test engines.

[bodywerks]

I figured it was on the site, but my work computer is restricted and I couldn't access it. 7.8 pounds is not bad, especially if it out powers the competition, but only direct testing will prove that, IMO...
I'm not in the market for a 150 right now, but might be looking for a light, ultra-powerful 80 next fall, so if this thing can better the new super 80, you'll have my attention!

[bodywerks]

Hmmm...5 pounds!!! Is that with or without the ignition??? If so, that's 10 ounces heavier than the ZDZ , and you could get a BME 110 and be still lighter and more powerful...

[aerografixs]

I will try and get some comparitive testing soon but it would hard for me to do it. Besides I would be viewed as being biased..

I do have this report from the the BMP muffler from Germany developing a muffler for our engines.


Hello Jose,
i think Andreas Engel has talk about us and our new BMB exhaust system.

But before we are talk about this:
Congratulation! Your engines work very well and i have never seen an engine so smouth running with lowest vibrations. Good job!
We check your engine very short and simple:
- on ground with testequipment
- -3 degrees temperatur (but the sun was shining..)
- round about 75% water in air (hope you can understand it)
- 1050 h.p. air press
- checked max RPM after 5-7 seconds
- gasoline 1:25 (!!!)

The power from the 75ccm engine was very, very good. With 27 x 14 two blade from Andreas Engel round about 5.700 RPM and with 28 x 14 two blade a little bit over 5.300 RPM. And this with an brand new engine, where the "braek in" was not finished. This results are very good and it's mirroring exact the same from the new ZDZ 80RV J....whow!
The throttle response was perfect too, we would like to say these are "electrical engines". You feel every mm on the throttle, no hole, no hysterese or negative result.
This is for flying 3D very important and many, many engines and muffler manufacturs have big problems about that....!

That's the best I can do for the moment
More will come in as the engines are going to modelers hands
Roger

[aerografixs]

	Quote: Originally Posted by STR8HUCKIN
	how about a video of one running or flying??

I'm not equiped at this time for a video but am working on it, I will try to borrow one

Roger

[aerografixs]

	Quote: Originally Posted by bodywerks
	, and you could get a BME 110 and be still lighter and more powerful...

And more expensive

Roger

[SleepyC]

With the Mag. Comp. version. What's the weight difference?
on the 80cc and the 150cc.

Is there a 80cc Mag Comp version available??

Thanks.