DL 50 vs 3MM 53? Better cheap gasser?

[RappyMan]

Hi All
I'm thinking about a power increase on a cheap plane I have. Has anyone played with both the DL50 and the 3MM TOC53?
How does the power compare?
How well do each start?
Weights of each?
What % are lemons?

They are within $20 of each other on sell price - just looking for which way to go. The 53 has the side carb which might be easier to adjust & manually flip the choke on & off.

Thanks
Terry

[Flyinhigh]

I would advocate the 3MM 53.

I just wrestled with this last week when I decided to rebuild a 30% Extra with a Moki 2.10. I'm hooked on gas, so the 2.10 is for sale. I have a 3mm 53 comming in from Wild Hare. Wild Hare is going to be the exclusive factory distributer and will also service them - all the other distributers will go on their way, eventually. Tom at Wild Hare is a great guy to talk to - he's tested the 3MM to outperform others in it's class, and with over 20 in the field, has had no reports of problems. The 3MM uses a walbro carb, the DL uses a factory carb that had a whole run of recalls and problems. The distributor for DL is new, while Wild Hare has a solidly established reputation. I paid a higher price, and TX state sales tax to buy mine from Wild Hare, rather than save $ with a used motor (no warrantee) or one from out of state (short-lived distributor)

Oh, the 3MM is about 6oz or so heavier, but that's because of the knock-off design. Like their mentors, the DL 50 has two bearings - a little lighter, a little less power (maybe unrelated) but a little more vibration.

I can't advocate either from personal experience, but I can recommend dealing with Tom at Wild Hare R/C in Texas - he stands behind anything he sells.

[Flyinhigh]

The UPS guy just showed up at my door with my new 3MM TOC 53 from Wild Hare while I was typing the last reply. It looks very familiar I'll need a few weeks to build and break-in before I can offer any testimony.

As far as Wild Hare is concerned:

I just ordered this yesterday morning. Tom runs his business as a full-time job, unlike many of the other 'part-timers' that are floating about

[RappyMan]

Sounds good so far - let me know how the 3MM runs! Nothing beats the UPS guy showing up with another "present"

[Mr.Pickle]

how much ya gettin for the Moki?

[GremlinX]

Pickle... that's funny..

[Flyinhigh]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Mr.Pickle
	how much ya gettin for the Moki?

It's on RCU if you're serious.

[tim]

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[Major_Smackdown]

the DL I bought has a walbro carb, and the needles being to the side are easier to reach in a cowling to tune, and it's 10 oz heavier (I have both engines) I'd recommend the DL

[Al Lewis]

I've been running both for some time now. The DL from DLUSA has slightly more power and you can use all of the DA exhaust. The 3MM runs slightly smoother but only has one optional exhaust that I know of from Bisson. If you buy a DL from DLUSA you'll get great service shoUld you ever need it. Bob Kramer is fantastic taking care of his customers.

[krayzc]

kewl

[zoomer260]

Started my DL a couple of days ago and am working through the 1st gallon. I always run a gallon through every engine to get to "know it" before putting it in the air. Mines a 3 flip engine max, cold start or hot. Hot one or two is the norm. I need a new tach so I don't have any numbers.

[zoomer260]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Major_Smackdown
	the DL I bought has a walbro carb, and the needles being to the side are easier to reach in a cowling to tune, and it's 10 oz heavier (I have both engines) I'd recommend the DL

Don't believe the DL is 10 oz heavier ? It has one less bearing which in a 50cc is about 6oz.
And your recommendaton for DL after stating that make me wonder if you made a typo ?

[Al Lewis]

	Quote: Originally Posted by zoomer260
	Don't believe the DL is 10 oz heavier ? It has one less bearing which in a 50cc is about 6oz. And your recommendaton for DL after stating that make me wonder if you made a typo ?

I believe he meant the 3MM. It's about 11.5 ounces heavier then the DL.

[rede2fly]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Flyinhigh
	I would advocate the 3MM 53. The 3MM uses a walbro carb, the DL uses a factory carb that had a whole run of recalls and problems.

this information is totaly incorrect. the fact is the DL is also a walbro carb and has no problems at all. or any recalls. man where do you guys get this stuff. both are good motors. get what you like in a motor. either a side mount carb or rear mount carb. i personaly like the rear mount. you dont need to baffle the air intake. it gives a steady pressure. unlike the side mounted you may need to get a velosity stack. its personal prefrence. plus for (me) i have 2 DA 50's and the DL has or uses the same drill jig setup. and if you check the ratings on it, on rcu you will indeed see that it has the highest rating. (full stars). but i guess that dosent mean much