52% Weeks Solution Test Flight (Hempel)

[eagle1]

Bill I sure hope you fix this problem.
I meet AJ at the Odessa field here not to long ago,him and Don was trying to help me figure out the problem on my new Comp. 2.6 300sx.
This plane has been to the field twice for test flight and I cannot get past the range check,DA2000 will do the test flight or be there to give me his thumbs up on it,I am trying a new set up that I am not familiar with,2 pcm rx,2-5200 lith-ion bat. and regs.
on the other comp 2.6 exta330L I use 1 rx and the i4c isolator and yet to have any problems with that setup but this new one makes me want to go back to ppm and an isolator.............
And by all accounts you got a great looking plane and hope to see it fly in person some day..............maybe next year when i start to compete....

[3ddd]

well that is good news, so we wait with almost nothing to dobananadogg

[eagle1]

practice is something I find no time to do

[toc pilot]

	Quote: Originally Posted by xtreem3d
	bill, correct me if i'm wrong...you did NOT have the RRS in your plane when the first 2 RX's failed? so....the failsafe channel really has nothing to do w/ the original problem? ( i didn't go back through the thread, just off memory) steve EDIT. bill if you understand the failsafe from talking to AI can you explain it a little and how it works...i still "ain't gettin' it !!!!!!<G>

Hi Steve,

You are correct. My initial problem occured without the RRS. Replaced reciever and it did it agian on the second flight. Installed RRS system and I still had the problem. Installed G-3 recievers had same issue but re-did some wireing and all seems fine now. Not sure how to trouble shoot original problem. I would guess that there is still a potiential problem somewhere but it has not showed its face recentley.
What to do? I will do some other maitenance work on the plane and keep my eyes on the meters of the RRS. If additional issues occur, I will swap the PB out. A.I. did not send me a new box as they feel confident that the problem is now fixed. I am at about 30% comfort level on this issue.

Steve, there is no way I can explain the Failsafe issue and hook up. I was just smiling and nodding my head as they explained eveything, it sounded all Greek to me!

Tony (Rolling Thunder) I concidered doing the twin SF boxes but that is really not the right way to do it with that box. I will see how this issue goes and figure something out. Come on down to Tucson and give me a hand! I promise not to stand you up!

BH

[Rolling Thunder]

[bodywerks]

LOL! Glad you got it [hopefully] sorted out...hope to see it this weekend!

[inky00]

	Quote: Originally Posted by 3ddd
	hey inky how do i keep the cowl on this thing.flys great heck i have more flights on it now than bill does on his but i can't keep the cowl on it.if bill's flys anything like this one i am going to have aj built me one and go to tas

If you dont want the cowl falling off so easily then go into the editor and raise the strength multiplier for the cowl and it wont fall off as readily.

[3D-Boogy]

Looking good Bill, I'm sure that baby fies awesome!!
Do still have the Pitts Challenger?

[rc4flying]

	Quote: Originally Posted by toc pilot
	Hi Steve, there is no way I can explain the Failsafe issue and hook up. I was just smiling and nodding my head as the explained eveything, it sounded all Greek to me! BH

Boy, I know the feeling of that.. At Joe Nall they, Kevin and Emerish, tried several times to explain how to hook up the fail safe to me and I still did not understand. I have left the failsafe unused in my RRS install and just have the fail safe with the 14MZ set up and have not seen any problems as of yet.

As a note, when Bill was first bringing his problem to light, I did some hookup test. I plugged the FS into channel 12 on the G3 rx's and set values to 0 and 100%. But didn't see anything happen when I tried to force a lockout and interference. I may go back and try channel 8 as Bill has done, but for flying, I will not use the FS on the RRS.

[PropellerHead_NJ]

Hi Folks,

I have important information regarding the PowerBox RRS Module.
The Redundant Receiver System Module uses the FS or FailSafe connectors
on the box to monitor signal and receiver integrity for proper operation.

I am noticing that some of you are not connecting these and that is bad.
IF YOU DO NOT CONFIGURE THE FAILSAFE CHANNEL TO THE RRS, THE SYSTEM WILL NOT WORK!

Here is what you need to do to ensure proper operation of your RRS Module:
Program an UNUSED extra PROPORTIONAL channel as a failsafe channel with
0% to +100% travel upon failure of signal. Do not exceed 100%.

Plug in a servo to that newly configured channel on each receiver.

Ensure that the servos rotate from center to one side upon signal loss (TX off).

Plug both FS pigtails into this newly programmed channel on both RX's.

Shut down and restart all equipment TX followed by both RX's.

Pull one FS pigtail out of the RRS. The arrow should point to the opposite RX indicating "RX Failure". Plug that wire back in. Pull the wire from the other RX to the FS port on the RRS. The arrow should now point to the other RX.

Your RRS is now completely set up. Power down everything, and power everything back up. Your RRS is now ready to fly.

Happy Landings,

Kevin Schlosser
Aircraft International, Inc.
North American PowerBox Systems Technical Support

[3ddd]

thanks inky

[xtreem3d]

joe/bill,
on the 14z , are all the channels full "resolution"? if not could that cause the rrs not to show it works if your plugged into the lesser resolute channels?

[thewrap]

Wow that is alot of information. That's when I just have to walk away. Well anyway I hope this one works out for you. Let's all hold our breath and cross our fingers.

[rc4flying]

	Quote: Originally Posted by PropellerHead_NJ
	Hi Folks, I have important information regarding the PowerBox RRS Module. The Redundant Receiver System Module uses the FS or FailSafe connectors on the box to monitor signal and receiver integrity for proper operation. I am noticing that some of you are not connecting these and that is bad. IF YOU DO NOT CONFIGURE THE FAILSAFE CHANNEL TO THE RRS, THE SYSTEM WILL NOT WORK! Here is what you need to do to ensure proper operation of your RRS Module: Program an UNUSED extra PROPORTIONAL channel as a failsafe channel with 0% to +100% travel upon failure of signal. Do not exceed 100%. Plug in a servo to that newly configured channel on each receiver. Ensure that the servos rotate from center to one side upon signal loss (TX off). Plug both FS pigtails into this newly programmed channel on both RX's. Shut down and restart all equipment TX followed by both RX's. Pull one FS pigtail out of the RRS. The arrow should point to the opposite RX indicating "RX Failure". Plug that wire back in. Pull the wire from the other RX to the FS port on the RRS. The arrow should now point to the other RX. Your RRS is now completely set up. Power down everything, and power everything back up. Your RRS is now ready to fly. Happy Landings, Kevin Schlosser Aircraft International, Inc. North American PowerBox Systems Technical Support

Thanks Kevin,
For some reason, your explanation helped me to understand it better.
I know at Nall, I was not fully understanding how this worked. Going back and rereading the instruction now, Again. It seemed to make sense all of a sudden.

Thanks for the clarifications. It is all hooked up now and working properly as I understand it now.

[rc4flying]

	Quote: Originally Posted by xtreem3d
	joe/bill, on the 14z , are all the channels full "resolution"? if not could that cause the rrs not to show it works if your plugged into the lesser resolute channels?

No, they are not. Only 12 channels are. DG1 and DG2 are like on - off channels.

When first installing the unit, I did not have any instruction to go by. I was using an explanation that I was not fully understanding. But willing to try.
When I did get the instruction, I was missing something on my part, with the channel setup using channel 7 as my choice.
After Kevins response above and rereading the instruction again, I was able to get the unit to work as stated in the instruction. Sometimes things have to be repeated more then once to be fully understood. NOW....I get it.

Although, I did have at least 20+ flights without any problems and did notice that the rx has changed during some flights. I am now properly hooked up.