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Old 05-28-2007, 04:51 PM   #1
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Default Shot down - it finally happened to me.

Well I feel like calling it quits after today.

Just back from Nall where 1000's of people were flying,
and I had no issues.

I get to my home field today there is maybe 10 people there.
Set up the Panzl, check the batteries... fuel it up, range check and get ready for a flight.

No ones in the air so I fire up, warm up the motor and head to the run way...
check the wind, wot the motor and the Panzl is air born in 10 feet..

25 feet I go vertical.. at 50' every single surface on my plane goes full deflection.. no response, even my fiber optic throttle kill won't work!!

I Yell - - - - Hit - - Hit - - - Hit!!! but it's too late..

FREAKING Plane piles in nose first at a good speed.

The plane is 100% loss, my 3W 100 is bad, freaking carb is ripped off, mufflers destroyed, who knows what else is busted...
A few servos were killed... and my brand new TT spinner and Vessprop are smoked.

And the Panzl was flying SOOOo good. JeeUm and Kevin helped me at Nall dial it in and it was AWESOME. ARRGGHHHHH (just made myself mad)

The very best part of today.. no one stepped up and took blame.

BUT funny how this one particualr dude's stuff was all packed up as soon as the incident took place, and he was completely gone after I came from the walk of shame.

I was and am very upset... this is putting a hurting on my wallet something fierce,
and damn it , I can accept a dumb thumb, but this straight sucks..

I sat for a moment and kind of laughed... and then I did the only thing I could to stay sane... I grabbed my FG foamie and ran 2 packs through it wringing the poo out of it.

Ahhhh this hobby... its worse than anything.. one minute it the best thing ever.. the next minute you want to sell it all, and take up golf... I mean Shoot... worst case on a day golfing.. you break a club, or loose a pile of balls......

I'll TAKE PICTURES LATER.

I can't bare to look at the carcus right now.


PS: FOR SALE: One slightly used BLACk CLOUD. This Black cloud will follow you around rain or shine...it will always be at your side.. you will never be alone. $1
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Old 05-28-2007, 04:56 PM   #2
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Default Re: FREAKING SHOT DOWN - it finally happened to me.

Aww man Im sorry. That stinks. I have never been shot down (knock on wood) but I can imagin how much that must suck with a plane that big/expensive
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Old 05-28-2007, 04:57 PM   #3
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Did you set your failsafe position off for the ignition kill?
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Old 05-28-2007, 05:04 PM   #4
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Old 05-28-2007, 05:08 PM   #5
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Default Re: FREAKING SHOT DOWN - it finally happened to me.

Fail safe was set to neutral all surfaces and idle, any lock out should make the smartfly optic kill shut off the motor, I mean if I turned off my transmitter the motor died. I had to display this at the Nall.

And the motor never died.. so it wasn't lock out.
And when I got to the wreakage I tried my ruder and eleavators and they were working just fine....

BUT who knows.. either I got shot down, or I had a momentary problem that fixed itself after the crash... I know I know anything is possible.
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Old 05-28-2007, 05:10 PM   #6
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Sorry about your loss, I am packaging up some of my luck & sending it your way.
Sorry Bro.
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Old 05-28-2007, 05:11 PM   #7
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Default Re: FREAKING SHOT DOWN - it finally happened to me.

Man, Sleepy, I feel for ya! I lost my 34%er last year - its sucks, but you just have to keep going! Keep your head up dude!

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Old 05-28-2007, 05:19 PM   #8
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Default Re: FREAKING SHOT DOWN - it finally happened to me.

Man Sleepy, I feel for you. Sorry to hear about this. All you want to do is enjoy the hobby.

I will pass on the Black Cloud you have listed in you posting above. I am afraid it would cost me more that the price you are asking. Cheer up. You have lots of guys pulling for you.

If you were using PCM and got a hit, everything should go to your fail safe setting. The only time I have seen a PCM rcvr get hit and got to positions other then the fail safe settings, there was a problem with a servo giving a feed back to this guys rcvr. He was lucky, his damage was not bad enough that we were able to get the system to do it again and I found the bad servo. You never know.

But again.......Sorry for your loss. I feel for you.
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Old 05-28-2007, 05:24 PM   #9
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Default Re: FREAKING SHOT DOWN - it finally happened to me.

The guy that left, was he a member, and does anyone know what channel he was on? Or did he have a dial-a-crash radio (worst idea ever!!!!)? Was there anyone else on your channel there?
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Old 05-28-2007, 06:02 PM   #10
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Sorry to hear that Sleepy. Glad your taking it as well as you are.
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Old 05-28-2007, 06:06 PM   #11
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Default Re: FREAKING SHOT DOWN - it finally happened to me.

Weird - I thought I responded to this thread, but my post did not get on. Oh well.

Since you did not go into lock out there is only 1 possibility. Which is that the suspected culprit had a PCM radio of the same brand as yours on the same channel as yours. In that case you will NOT get a lock out. The RX will obey the strongest signal. In every other case you WILL get lock out if another TX turns on using your channel regardless of whether it is PCM, PPM same brand or not.
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Old 05-28-2007, 06:07 PM   #12
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Default Re: FREAKING SHOT DOWN - it finally happened to me.

Serious bummer Sleepy. I would really hope that if someone shot someone else down that they would at least take responsibility. I don't know wht the Hell is wrong with people these days. At least no one got hurt. Sorry to hear about the loss.....that is a big chunk of change
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Default Re: FREAKING SHOT DOWN - it finally happened to me.

I'm not sure that you were hit. The only way you'd have those full deflection is IF he was ALSO on PCM, and ALSO flying JR. Otherwise, the PCM will take all that PPM signals as garbage and go into failsafe.

Either way, it sucks, and I'm sorry about your loss.

Good thing this wasn't your Dalton
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Old 05-28-2007, 06:32 PM   #14
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Default Re: FREAKING SHOT DOWN - it finally happened to me.

Sorry to hear that sleepy.

So, if I have a pcm radio on a certain freq, and someone on PPM turns their radio on with the same channel, my radio wont take a hit??
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Old 05-28-2007, 06:57 PM   #15
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I feel your pain. I wish our field had air traffic control only allowing scheduled flights like big events. That, or limiting the membership population in some way.

I have found it difficult for me to become motivated assembly my 42% after losing two 33%'s in the last year. One due to a $500.00 .46 size models flying aimlessly all over the place with no sense of direction, and the other, a 40% doing the same.

It sucks big time that the attitude at the fields are -all- models are the same when they are mid-air'd, and nobody is at fault. Its just your own tuff luck because your model cost more.

Damm, I wish I owned some private land.
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