Shot down - it finally happened to me.

[Dangerous Dan]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Mokken
	Wow!! That's the second ZDZ80 I've seen the same thing happen too.

Make it 3

[Bryant330L]

Sleepy, I hate to hear of this happening to you..... Want me to make us a tee time for next Saturday??? Hang in there.

[Neogenesis]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Dangerous Dan
	Make it 3

That's funny..........maybe I'll have to start a thread on this.....just for research purposes.

I was told that it's a very rare problem. "as I expected to hear"



Neo

[Dangerous Dan]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Neogenesis
	That's funny..........maybe I'll have to start a thread on this.....just for research purposes. I was told that it's a very rare problem. "as I expected to hear" Neo

The one I saw Injested the Carb Butterfly screw, ZDZ Replaced the engine.

[Neogenesis]

This one supposedly the screw that holds on the rotary valve fractured and backed it's way out. They are supposedly hardened...and then have a set screw on them to prevent them from backing out. If the set screw is cranked down too far....it will induce a fractured bolt. That's the story I got anyway.



Neo

[SleepyC]

	Quote:
	I am sorry that you crashed that thing, you sure loved it..

Yea man.. thats the worst part.
I REALLY LIke THE PANZL. It REALLY grew on me... and it flew SOOOO nice when set up properly.
MAN.. i'm gonna miss it.
Its a plane that never got the "yak" status or "260" status, but flies better than most planes.
If I come across some extra scratch I'll build another for sure... Hopefully Jtec still has them!!

[Judge]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Dangerous Dan
	In General why, when somebody has a Hit, does everyone try and disprove it

I prefer to think that we are trying to make certain that it really was a true hit. Many times a variety of different causes may have the same result and it is worth asking the necessary questions to make certain what the actual cause was.

Example - Many times a guy will say he got hit. Further inspection shows his battery came unplugged, the crystal fell out, the servos stalled, the battery failed, and on and on. So given how many potential faults there are it is not a trivial exercise to try to make certain what happened.

Another example - a plane looked like it was getting hit. Elevator seemed to be cycling to full up, then back. Later found out that the elevator pushrod failed.

In this case I am 50/50 on the hit theory. It is possible that he got shot down. But since we are not 100% certain that the other guy was turned on, then it is possible that something else was at fault.

So my other 50% part is that the RX failed intermittently and drove the servos hard over. Both causes give the same result.

Unless the alleged culprit confesses or we get solid evidence from a third party who actually saw him turn on, then all we really have are suspicions (strong as they may be).

So look at it however you choose to, but for me I like to ask all the questions to make certain that we are not jumping to conclusions.

It always sucks losing a plane, for whatever reason. But it sucks even more not knowing for certain what the cause was. Even worse is thinking you know what happened and being wrong since you end up "fixing" the wrong thing!!

[jongurley]

I will be frankly honest with you guys, If I were you sleepy, and I confronted the guy in a nice polite manner and he denied it, I would ask him one more time to just admit it and nothing would be said, just to be more careful, , ALTHOUGH,, I would have probrably wooped his ass that day before he left the field just in case, worst you could get is a basic assault charge, but it is funny he left all of a sudden,, I would have just plain and simple wooped his ass,,!! seriously ,

[Dangerous Dan]

Judge there is extremly strong Circumstantial Evidence supporting Sleepys Claim. I will give him benifit of the doubt!

[Dangerous Dan]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Judge
	So my other 50% part is that the RX failed intermittently and drove the servos hard over. Both causes give the same result.

Possibly he didn't have his crystals taped in verry good



Judge just Kidding with ya I couldn't resist

[Al Czervik]

Yo Sleepy,

We met briefly the Nall on Thursday night. Sorry to hear what happened and that your kids have to witness such carnage.

It sounds like you handled the situation w/ class and I'm sure that isn't easy.

-Brad

[jongurley]

There is a fine line between Class and a 5000 dollar invested,,, especially when it was so preventable,,

[SleepyC]

Guys the deal is that I didn,t witness the guy first hand. It,s all circumstantial evidence . So it,s my word against his. And in no court in the US will that stand up. so... I move on.
Will I be nice to the guy if I see him...You bet. I be sickly nice... let him stew in guilt... muhahahahahahahahahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aa .

But, I fly to enjoy myself and getting upset for too long defeats the purpose. I will skip lunch, and save! Get a new Panzl, and the world will be right!

[babflyer]

It sure stinks when you "think" you got shot down but you never know for sure. I lost a 25% h9 cap years ago and wound up dumping it in a woods the best I could because I didn't want it in a roof top on the other side of that woods. As soon as this happens I notice a car pulling up the clubs long driveway. They have a trainer in the back that I can see and they never even get out, just turn around and drive away. I wasn't to happy. Probably a new club member that never showed up again.

[TheTank]

	Quote: Originally Posted by snap a saurus
	I ask around basically everyone if they are on my frequency, I am not satisfied with the pin alone, this also tells me who is on my frequency and everytime I go to fly I remind that person to be careful. Hopefully with the new 2.4 Ghz we will not have this problem anymore.

No doubt. Snap and I fly on the same frequency and constantly communicate when we fly togethor. Snaps alertness actually saved my airplane one time when I took off thinking I still had the pin, he looked before he turned on and realized I was flying. Definetly a bone-head move on my part, but definetly made me realize, anyone can make a mistake. Good think I had someone like Snap on my frequency so that it didnt become one heck of a costly mistake.