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Old 08-25-2007, 09:07 PM   #1
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Default DA-85 on a Hanger 9 33% Cap

I am back from 3 flights on the maiden the Hanger 9 33% Cap. I used a GP CG machine and I am at 7” on the inboard root of the wings. I did not use the outer wing tip method to balance. At this CG I require just a hint to fly level inverted. My trim set on the radio has been set up 1 on all things except throttle. The maiden required 10 clicks of down on the elevator and nothing on the ailerons. I am requiring more right thrust. I did not have the correct gear to take care of this at the field. I will also require a mix for down lines as they pull out slightly. I did take care of a rudder to elevator mix of -3 on both left to right and right to left. I expected more like a -5 to a -7 for the way the Cap stab sits. I have also read were Caps owners are requiring a mix as the plane would roll very badly in knife edge. I am not sure if the newer Cap has some redesign issues; however, mine is flying more like an Yak in the fact its flying very true or close to it knife edge. I also am only running one 5955 on the inboard hole on both wings and full throttle present no issues with this set-up. I am also running one 5955 on the rudder and this also is working great with easy recovering in knife edge. I have never flown a Cap that was not strong on its side to me that is an Edge flaw. I have had 3 Caps, Sig, GP, this is my 4th Cap and it’s hard to believe this baby flies so great. The DA-85 has the power to move this thing like there is no tomorrow with less than a gallon on the motor. I am getting 6550 on a 26A Vess upon landing so that is my hot RPM. If you do go full throttle the plane quickly become a spec in the sky. I did not do any blender, walls, harriers, elevators and T-Rolls. I have to get the things I want flying to my style 1st then I explore that side of the house. I will not be moving my CG as I like it a lot at this spot. I will do the following:

Add a throttle to elevator mix for the last click of throttle.
Add more Right thrust
Correct the cowl to spinner alignment once the R-Thrust is to my liking

This Cap can jump right in there and fly IMAC if you ask me. I am very pleased to have another bird in my Hanger that I will enjoy fling. That’s more of the goal this year is to only have those birds in the hanger that you would/want to fly. This is my first experience with a DA motor of my own and it’s doing well for me on the 1st gallon. The Cap is only 21.5 lbs so weight is really not an issue with this set up. Weight was saved by only using one servo per wing, adding carbon fiber for the spinner, wing tube and landing gear. There was not any snappy behavior out of this Cap or any of the other Caps I have owned. I fly with 10 degrees on all of my bird’s low rates and 20-25 on my ailerons and rudder low rates. I usually use 35-45 on the ailerons, elevator, and rudder 3d rates. I am running a throttle curve on this bird along with having number of 130 and 124 on my throttle travel. I only have three landing on the Cap and its landing very very slow; however, I am coming in so slow that I am making corrections until my wheel touch down. It’s not the bouchee landing just so slow and figuring out the few clicks deal needed to let it settling on in for a landing is what I am learning on this bird right. Well anyway the maiden went well now it's time for the weather to cool off so that I can spend time with the birds (gassers) that I have and just get into a groove with them.

DA-85
JTEC Pitts Muffler
Vess 26A
5955 ailerons x 2
5955 rudder x 1 push pull
8411 elevators x 2
475 throttle
531 choke
32 oz tank
4" skylites
carbon fiber wing tube
carbon fiber spinner
carbon fiber landing gear
4400 receiver
2200 ignition

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Old 08-25-2007, 09:28 PM   #2
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Default Re: DA-85 on a Hanger 9 33% Cap

Got a Camera? this would be a great Kodak moment.

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Old 08-28-2007, 01:58 PM   #3
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Good Deal!! That 85 is sure a nice little powerhouse. A friend of mine put one on a 102" 260, flew it very nicely!
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Old 08-28-2007, 03:42 PM   #4
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Default Re: DA-85 on a Hanger 9 33% Cap

yeah i am looking forward to my next outing with it. At this point I will have:

added more right thrust
leaned the high end to clear out its richness
work on the downline mix
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Old 08-28-2007, 05:56 PM   #5
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Does Gerald have a camera? That's like asking if a pig's a$$ is pork Sounds like a nice combo Gerald. I've got one I was gonna put a 3W80 on, but shelved it for a while.

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Old 08-29-2007, 06:18 PM   #6
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Default Re: DA-85 on a Hanger 9 33% Cap

I have been known to be a posted pic fool on DOD......
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Old 08-29-2007, 06:53 PM   #7
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thanks krayzc ..... looks good.
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