Welcome to The FlyingGiants! - please login or click this bar to join our community...

HobbyKing.com New Products Flash Sale
 

Welcome to The FlyingGiants Community! We're all about fun, and inside you'll find the greatest, friendliest, and most helpful group of people around! If this is your first time visiting, please check out site, and click here to sign up! We hope to see you soon!!

Go Back   FlyingGiants > Giant Scale Planes > General Discussion
Forgot your password? Create a new account


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 11-12-2007, 06:40 PM   #1
Bat Fastard
Bad-ass Super Contributer!
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Manakin-Sabot Va
Age: 34
Posts: 644
Default PAU Ultimate with a BME 110 Cooling/ducting cowl!

Does anyone have this combo? I am getting ready to finish this up and need good sound advice for installing the baffeling that WORKS. Pics would be nice.

I had this engine in a H9 cap and it would run around 300 degrees tuned somewhat rich. The baffeling was from the openings in the cowl to the front of the cylinder only and the openings were a little too small I think.

Any info would be appreciated.

BF
Bat Fastard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2007, 07:10 PM   #2
thumbs1
Flyin' Around
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 3
Default Re: PAU Ultimate with a BME 110 Cooling/ducting cowl!

Quote: Originally Posted by Bat Fastard
View Post
Does anyone have this combo? I am getting ready to finish this up and need good sound advice for installing the baffeling that WORKS. Pics would be nice.

I had this engine in a H9 cap and it would run around 300 degrees tuned somewhat rich. The baffeling was from the openings in the cowl to the front of the cylinder only and the openings were a little too small I think.

Any info would be appreciated.

BF
I've been flying a PAU Ultimate/BME 110 for about three years. The performance is excellent and the only reason I fly my Comp-arf/BME 110 more often is because I'm sometimes just a little too lazy to setup a bi-plane.

I've always used baffling for engines mounted inside a cowl with good results. The baffling for my 110's is copied from a picture of the Ultimate Chip Hyde used at the last TOC.

http://www.scaleaerobatics.com/gallery.aspx

Overheating has never been a problem, even with the 100+ temps we have in Las Vegas. I don't know the cylinder temps, but there has never been a problem with the engine losing rpm due to excessive heat.

See the atttached pictures, I'm in the process of removing the tuned pipes and reinstalling the canisters, the pipes added too much tail weight.
Attached Thumbnails
  • Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_1437.jpg
Views:	252
Size:	149.3 KB
ID:	75676 149.3 KB · Views: 252

  • Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_1435.jpg
Views:	179
Size:	116.2 KB
ID:	75677 116.2 KB · Views: 179

thumbs1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2007, 07:16 PM   #3
Bat Fastard
Bad-ass Super Contributer!
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Manakin-Sabot Va
Age: 34
Posts: 644
Default Re: PAU Ultimate with a BME 110 Cooling/ducting cowl!

Thanks a bunch Thumbs! It looks simple enough, I think I'll give it a try.

BF
Bat Fastard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2007, 07:23 PM   #4
thumbs1
Flyin' Around
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 3
Default Re: PAU Ultimate with a BME 110 Cooling/ducting cowl!

Even after building several baffles, it still takes me about 4 - 5 hours to do it right. You need to make sure the baffle fits perfectly against the sides and top of the cowl so air doesn't leak around the baffle instead of going through the fins. I also use silcone to seal the top of the baffle where the ignition wires pass through.
thumbs1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2007, 07:25 PM   #5
Bat Fastard
Bad-ass Super Contributer!
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Manakin-Sabot Va
Age: 34
Posts: 644
Default Re: PAU Ultimate with a BME 110 Cooling/ducting cowl!

I think I'll make it a little small and then make another one that fits inside of the cowl so that they overlap a little. Should make it a little easier to do. What do you think?
Bat Fastard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2007, 08:14 PM   #6
thumbs1
Flyin' Around
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 3
Default Re: PAU Ultimate with a BME 110 Cooling/ducting cowl!

That's what I did around the corners, it looked ugly but most of the baffle is not visible when the cowl is on.
thumbs1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2007, 12:23 PM   #7
flyin woodbutcher
Diving for DA's
 
flyin woodbutcher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Ashland Va
Age: 49
Posts: 1,578
Default Re: PAU Ultimate with a BME 110 Cooling/ducting cowl!

Quote: Originally Posted by Bat Fastard
View Post
Does anyone have this combo? I am getting ready to finish this up and need good sound advice for installing the baffeling that WORKS. Pics would be nice.

I had this engine in a H9 cap and it would run around 300 degrees tuned somewhat rich. The baffeling was from the openings in the cowl to the front of the cylinder only and the openings were a little too small I think.

Any info would be appreciated.

BF

what you baffling for any way? Aint got no fins to cool it wit.fg43
__________________
BIG JERRYS RC AIRPORT: Shut down, gone for good

" you earned them zeros "
DA 170
"better to wait than make a mistake"

Mona Vie wana be
"man up and support your CD "
flyin woodbutcher is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2007, 06:07 PM   #8
Bat Fastard
Bad-ass Super Contributer!
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Manakin-Sabot Va
Age: 34
Posts: 644
Default Re: PAU Ultimate with a BME 110 Cooling/ducting cowl!

Quote: Originally Posted by flyin woodbutcher
View Post
what you baffling for any way? Aint got no fins to cool it wit.fg43
Listen, just because it dont have your favorite brand name on it doesn't mean it wont work. I just need to figure out how to keep it cool. If you don't have anything constructive to say then keep your pie hole shut. Lick whats next to the moon:9:.
Bat Fastard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2007, 06:23 PM   #9
flyin woodbutcher
Diving for DA's
 
flyin woodbutcher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Ashland Va
Age: 49
Posts: 1,578
Default Re: PAU Ultimate with a BME 110 Cooling/ducting cowl!

Quote: Originally Posted by Bat Fastard
View Post
Listen, just because it dont have your favorite brand name on it doesn't mean it wont work. I just need to figure out how to keep it cool. If you don't have anything constructive to say then keep your pie hole shut. Lick whats next to the moon:9:.
Damit boy, got your pantys all in a ruffle.:fencing: You acting like a 3W boy or something. You know, cant take a little ribbing.
__________________
BIG JERRYS RC AIRPORT: Shut down, gone for good

" you earned them zeros "
DA 170
"better to wait than make a mistake"

Mona Vie wana be
"man up and support your CD "
flyin woodbutcher is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2007, 07:06 PM   #10
Bat Fastard
Bad-ass Super Contributer!
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Manakin-Sabot Va
Age: 34
Posts: 644
Default Re: PAU Ultimate with a BME 110 Cooling/ducting cowl!

Dats rite! :Banane36:
Bat Fastard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2007, 07:06 AM   #11
jongurley
Freak Nasty Aerobatics!!!!!!!!
 
jongurley's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Goldsboro, North Carolina
Age: 31
Posts: 3,363
Default Re: PAU Ultimate with a BME 110 Cooling/ducting cowl!

No DA????????
__________________


jongurley is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2007, 10:42 AM   #12
RTK
Bad-ass Super Contributer!
 
RTK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Left Coast
Age: 50
Posts: 3,720
Default Re: PAU Ultimate with a BME 110 Cooling/ducting cowl!

Here are a couple of pics of the way I had my 110 in a comp-arf.
It is hard to tell but there is a piece on the top part of the cowl about mid cylinder and a lower plate right at the lip of the lower cowl which extends to the cylinders, then goes around the sides to the curved back plate.
The gray curved piece slides behind the top baffle
Very simple but very effective. Oh I always put a lip on the exit areas to create a low pressure to aid in drawing out air.
It runs cool as a cucumber
Attached Thumbnails
  • Click image for larger version

Name:	Picture 0491.jpg
Views:	115
Size:	141.1 KB
ID:	75887 141.1 KB · Views: 115

  • Click image for larger version

Name:	Picture 0661.jpg
Views:	141
Size:	171.9 KB
ID:	75888 171.9 KB · Views: 141

  • Click image for larger version

Name:	Picture 0671.jpg
Views:	114
Size:	155.9 KB
ID:	75889 155.9 KB · Views: 114


Last edited by RTK; 11-14-2007 at 11:10 AM.
RTK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2007, 08:46 PM   #13
Bat Fastard
Bad-ass Super Contributer!
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Manakin-Sabot Va
Age: 34
Posts: 644
Default Re: PAU Ultimate with a BME 110 Cooling/ducting cowl!

Quote: Originally Posted by jongurley
View Post
No DA????????
I tried to sell it, no one will buy it. ? Wonder why........
I might as well try to use it. If I can keep it cool I'm sure it will do the job fine.
Bat Fastard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2007, 07:34 PM   #14
Bat Fastard
Bad-ass Super Contributer!
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Manakin-Sabot Va
Age: 34
Posts: 644
Default Re: PAU Ultimate with a BME 110 Cooling/ducting cowl!

Does anyone know what is a SAFE temp for the 110 to run at? Is 315 too hot?
Bat Fastard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2007, 09:16 PM   #15
RTK
Bad-ass Super Contributer!
 
RTK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Left Coast
Age: 50
Posts: 3,720
Default Re: PAU Ultimate with a BME 110 Cooling/ducting cowl!

Is that temp while flying or after landing???
RTK is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
BME 37% Ultimate or Aeroworks 35% Extra 260 sprice50 Airframes and Kits 53 08-12-2008 08:09 PM
Chip Hyde 34% Extra or BME 37% Ultimate LawnJockey Airframes and Kits 2 01-11-2007 10:12 AM
BME 50 IN GP ULTIMATE? storklappe Gas Engines 4 11-03-2006 09:58 PM
BME 37% Ultimate...??? Geojungle99 Airframes and Kits 4 04-14-2006 07:22 PM
BME 110 Extreme or DA-150?? Hanapi Gas Engines 12 04-05-2006 11:21 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:49 AM.

All Flyinggiants.com content copyright 2006-2012 by RCGroups.com, LLC except where otherwise indicated. The Flyinggiants.com logo is a trademark of RCGroups.com, LLC.
Please report any misuse of our trademarks or copyright violations using the contact form.
RCGroups Network :: RCGroups :: The E Zone :: Lift Zone :: RC Power :: Crackroll :: RC Cars

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.