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Old 08-01-2008, 11:01 AM   #1366
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Default Re: Independent tests prove lack of frequency hopping with XPS

It amazes me that anyone would still risk a big dollar airplane on XPS.

I know of only two people who flew XPS in a giant scale bird. Both crashed.

At this point I know of absolutely no one who uses XPS. No top level flyers use it.

Back when XPS first came on the scene, I was one of the first people to notice the problem with it and made video tapes to prove it. Right from the start I knew there was a problem handling interference. It was obvious it was incapable of adapting, switching channels as it was advertised to do, when necessary.

Back then someone coined a terrific phrase. If you have any common sense or judgement at all you would be wise to keep it well it mind:

IT WORKS GREAT UNTIL IT DOESN'T!

If you are using XPS it is not a matter of whether you will lose your airplane, it is only a matter of when.

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Old 08-01-2008, 11:21 AM   #1367
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Default Re: Independent tests prove lack of frequency hopping with XPS

actually that phrase is really over used here

it applies to every device the world has ever made. Even my cheap drill from Biglots worked great until it didn't along with my 2005 Dodge Magnum that worked great until it didn't.

Doesn't matter if its low end or high end......all things work great till they don't


But keep things on track.........we still don't have the video of hopping from XPS and XPS still hasn't released satellites.
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Old 08-01-2008, 12:22 PM   #1368
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Yep I was there on Saturday. I was with John and Ryan. What were you flying?



As for Mike.........when is the Sukhoi going to be ready? That thing is huge!
I was in the Dolphin MH on the end flying my 62" Lazy Ace and a 80" Extra,both electric.
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Old 08-01-2008, 12:37 PM   #1369
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You have to remember JD is a bit of a huckster. He is the kind of people that made America.
How about Bill Gates? Now there is a real huckster. A real successful one. I worked in the software field for awhile. The opinion of most of the sw gurus' was that Microsoft output was garbage. Where are those gurus now?
I remember when Futaba came out with their proportional stuff. It was garbage when compared with Kraft and Logictrol. Times change.
At least you can still contact JD. That might not be for long.
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Old 08-01-2008, 12:51 PM   #1370
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"Huckster", in this usage, equals "liar".

Plain & simple.
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Old 08-01-2008, 12:55 PM   #1371
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actually that phrase is really over used here

it applies to every device the world has ever made. Even my cheap drill from Biglots worked great until it didn't along with my 2005 Dodge Magnum that worked great until it didn't.

Doesn't matter if its low end or high end......all things work great till they don't


But keep things on track.........we still don't have the video of hopping from XPS and XPS still hasn't released satellites.
We know it applies to everything, in the literal sense. But we all also know what Dustflyer was trying to say and he's right: DO NOT trust anything but a foamie worth < $20 to XPS. It WILL crash your aircraft, if you fly it enough. DO NOT TRUST IT!!! If you do, sooner or later you will wish that you had not.
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Old 08-01-2008, 12:58 PM   #1372
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Default Re: Independent tests prove lack of frequency hopping with XPS

Is this thread really still going on???? Oh please make it stop...
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Old 08-01-2008, 03:38 PM   #1373
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It looks like the ama is getting behind them... or at least 1 editor.. I wonder if they'll also show the losses with xps?

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...6#post10260130

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...1#post10093961
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Old 08-01-2008, 03:53 PM   #1374
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I wrote that guy Gimlick an e-mail asking him why he did not point out the lies and innaccuracies in the XPS claims. So far he has not answered.
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Old 08-01-2008, 04:42 PM   #1375
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But keep things on track.........we still don't have the video of hopping from XPS and XPS still hasn't released satellites.
And a full month after it was promised (repeatedly) that XPS would be shipping the telemetry option, people are still waiting for the software.

I did say that there would be some real issues in coming up with a reliable effective telemetry solution that didn't impact the latency and reliability of the control link, perhaps JD is now discovering this for himself.
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Old 08-01-2008, 07:51 PM   #1376
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And a full month after it was promised (repeatedly) that XPS would be shipping the telemetry option, people are still waiting for the software.

I did say that there would be some real issues in coming up with a reliable effective telemetry solution that didn't impact the latency and reliability of the control link, perhaps JD is now discovering this for himself.

Hey maybe next time JD can ask you how to do it the correct way for his next project.
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Old 08-01-2008, 09:01 PM   #1377
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Hey maybe next time JD can ask you how to do it the correct way for his next project.
In all seriousness, I have freely offered to help in any way I can (without charge) -- after all, the goal here is to ensure that people are flying the safest most reliable system they can.

Despite what might some think, I'd rather be praising XPS/JD than criticizing them.

And at the risk of blowing my own trumpet -- I do seem to have predicted a lot of the "issues" that XPS has faced since its launch.

You'd think that *any* company would be very eager to receive the *free* input of someone with considerably more experience with the technology than they have themselves (and many of the companies I've helped out over the years under similar circumstances have been very keen and grateful).

But hey -- it's live and let live -- although I get annoyed when I see people being deliberately lied to in respect to a system's weaknesses and features.
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Old 08-02-2008, 12:22 AM   #1378
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In all seriousness, I have freely offered to help in any way I can (without charge) -- after all, the goal here is to ensure that people are flying the safest most reliable system they can.

Despite what might some think, I'd rather be praising XPS/JD than criticizing them.

And at the risk of blowing my own trumpet -- I do seem to have predicted a lot of the "issues" that XPS has faced since its launch.

You'd think that *any* company would be very eager to receive the *free* input of someone with considerably more experience with the technology than they have themselves (and many of the companies I've helped out over the years under similar circumstances have been very keen and grateful).

But hey -- it's live and let live -- although I get annoyed when I see people being deliberately lied to in respect to a system's weaknesses and features.
That is some ego!
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Old 08-02-2008, 01:36 AM   #1379
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That is some ego!
Which do you prefer -- modesty or honesty? I'll take honesty every time so I'm not afraid to admit that there are some things I know a lot about (and many more thinks I know very little about).

If I find myself short of knowledge, skill or expertise -- I openly welcome outside assistance and often pay good money for it. That's because I *don't* have a big ego that gets in the way of my goal of producing the best possible outcome for my clients.

How can this be a bad thing?
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Old 08-02-2008, 01:44 AM   #1380
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hhmmm??.....I don't think XJET is showing an ego with this. I believe he's just stating the facts. He has every right to toot his own horn ( him and Kiwi both) for all the work and results they have came up with.


Still after ( what 117 pages ??...i forgot to look ) JD has had a very , very long time to either fix his problematic gear , or at least show us 'some" kind of proof that it hops they way he says it does. But still........nothing.

Honestly.....i really think it would be cool if JD came clean. And was just up front and honest about it and said " Hey......i've got new things in the works , sorry my older system didn't hop"

XJET and Kiwi both seem very keen on how these systems work , it would be REALLY COOL if they we're helping Jim make his product better and safer for everyone.

Also.....i would just stick with Futaba or JR/Spektrum just because of all this nonsense. To much bad press from waaaayyy to many users. I think they out weigh the good by a long shot. I'm not willing to take a chance on that.
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