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Old 01-08-2008, 10:51 PM   #61
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Default Re: 50% CUB BY BILL HEMPLE

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Dear GAWD, please don't tell me that someone (Billy) has swiped one of Leseberg's schemes and plasterd it all over a production plane. I get so tired of seeing this, would it kill people to pick up a phone and ask the guy before just taking it for your own just to make a buck?!?!?!? Even though permission came from Kenny, IT'S NOT HIS PLANE.



Just a little courtesy once and a while would be very refreshing.
Huh? It is still not a "Mark Leseberg" trademark scheme. I have seen three of Kenny's covering schemes and they all look similar to this one. This scheme has Kenny Lauder written all over it. If the scheme belongs to anyone, it is Kenny, and Billy got permission - he went to the right guy and did the right thing.
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Old 01-08-2008, 11:38 PM   #62
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Dear GAWD, please don't tell me that someone (Billy) has swiped one of Leseberg's schemes and plasterd it all over a production plane. I get so tired of seeing this, would it kill people to pick up a phone and ask the guy before just taking it for your own just to make a buck?!?!?!? Even though permission came from Kenny, IT'S NOT HIS PLANE.



Just a little courtesy once and a while would be very refreshing.
Shouldn't this question be directed at me? I am the one who did it.

Yes, I know that the plane is owned by Mark but the scheme was designed by Kenney and not Mark. There are a few different similar schemes that Kenney has done that look very close to this one. If this was Marks scheme, I would have called Mark to get it and I am sure he would not have had a problem either. I am sorry you are the only one with the issue. In the future, if you have issues with something I did, my email address is all over the place.

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Old 01-08-2008, 11:55 PM   #63
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Oh, here we are. Maybe I should have copied these from Kenny? How about my 52% Weeks, good thing I am not making this into an ARF, seems I copied this too from Mark!

Bottom line; I like planes that look cool! Why reinvent the wheel, I am not an artist. Choose what you like, they are not trade mark ed!

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Old 01-09-2008, 12:05 AM   #64
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Looks sweet.
I am sombody who has designed many schemes for people.
And if I see a plane that copied one of mine, or looks like it slightly,
I get excited.

I think its an honor.

The reality is, there's no pot of gold for model airplane scheme designers,
so enjoy the compliment!

Really neat Bill, your taking the big dog ARF's to the next level.
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Old 01-09-2008, 01:09 AM   #65
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OH MY GOD!!! I know I have seen that scheme on that Cub somewhere else

See ya at the Show Bill.
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Old 01-09-2008, 02:12 AM   #66
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Bill,
I was given an inside tip that you stole the J3 scheme from a real Piper aircraft, it also looks like a Piper aircraft how dare you do that in MODEL aviation. My only complaint is if I have to go to the barn and get Cub Yellow covering and they tell me it is on back order for 6 months. Keep up the good work. I was lucky enough to see it in person but you have to get the video out, slow motion landings on one wheel to a full stop on one wheel and a wing tip and then a 3 foot takeoff roll still on one wheel.

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Old 01-09-2008, 12:36 PM   #67
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All I am saying is that when you pay someone to create a original scheme for your plane and the next thing you know, they have turned around and given it out to someone who is going to mass produce it kinda sux.

Both Billy and Kenny had the opportunity to say "Hey, do you mind if we copy that scheme onto an ARF we are going to produce". But neither did, I just think it would be nice of people to give a guy a call. Call it a courtesy thing.

Kinda like paying a custom home builder to build a unique home for you, then the builder and one of his buddies turns around and build 50 more just like yours in your neighborhood.

Billy and Kenny, don't take this the wrong way I'm not angry or meaning to blast anyone. It just seems common place for people to take what they want and let God sort it out in the end. I just like seeing people take a moment and think of the other guy.

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Old 01-09-2008, 12:40 PM   #68
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Looks sweet.
I am sombody who has designed many schemes for people.
And if I see a plane that copied one of mine, or looks like it slightly,
I get excited.

I think its an honor.

The reality is, there's no pot of gold for model airplane scheme designers,
so enjoy the compliment!

Really neat Bill, your taking the big dog ARF's to the next level.
SleepyC,

I agree with you completely, but again all I'm saying is taking a moment to think of the other guy especially when you are profiting from it can do a lot in bringing people in the hobby together.
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Old 01-09-2008, 12:49 PM   #69
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oooooohhhhhhhhhhh mmmmmmmmmmmyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy gggggggggooooooooooooodddddddddd:21 2:
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BTW,

Billy and Kenny, the plane looks beautiful. You defiantly have a winner there.
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Dude, It's just my opinion. Just wanted to pitch it out there. Evidently not many share the same opinion which is totally fine. But thats one of the reasons we have forums like this, opportunity to share thoughts and see how others feel.


All the same, the plane and scheme look fantastic. I would be proud to own one as I'm sure anyone else would.
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If it was a exact copy of a signature design yea I can agree with you. and I can see how this design would be confused with one of kennys (even though it is not). but if it were my design and some one as established in this hobby as hempel was to take my design and make one of his own I think I would be honored. Lots of different companies have planes that resemble one from a outside company. This kenny guy that designed the planes mentioned above has some mad skillz and crap If I had the money to buy one of those planes from hempel I would in a heat beat.
by the way bill the cub is awesome I think it would be a had choice to decide on just one plane you have made.
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All I am saying is that when you pay someone to create a original scheme for your plane and the next thing you know, they have turned around and given it out to someone who is going to mass produce it kinda sux.

Both Billy and Kenny had the opportunity to say "Hey, do you mind if we copy that scheme onto an ARF we are going to produce". But neither did, I just think it would be nice of people to give a guy a call. Call it a courtesy thing.

Kinda like paying a custom home builder to build a unique home for you, then the builder and one of his buddies turns around and build 50 more just like yours in your neighborhood.

Billy and Kenny, don't take this the wrong way I'm not angry or meaning to blast anyone. It just seems common place for people to take what they want and let God sort it out in the end. I just like seeing people take a moment and think of the other guy.

Peace

Not to beat a dead horse..... This is how it all happened between Kenny and I;

Hey dude, can I use this scheme for my new 50% Extra 260?

I am having them buiilt in China and need a cool looking scheme.

Just want to check with you before I have them done.

Bill Hempel



Absolutely my man. But, only you.lol Nah, J/K. I'm flattered when people use my designs. Can't wait to see it!

Take it easy.

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