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Old 02-11-2008, 08:42 PM   #61
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Old 02-11-2008, 08:47 PM   #62
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Bryan yes you can move into my trailer but wait until the weather gets a little better as the trailer has no heat.
Now go get yoursel an Edge
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Old 02-11-2008, 09:18 PM   #63
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Sorry, I read back on the thread. If one is going to use just 2 JR 8711's on the ailerons, would it hurt to put one all the way out near the tip and the other in the closest to the root? Just seems like it leaves a lot of aileron out there if you use the closer two bays. But hey, you are doing the testing so I am going to go with your advice.

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Jason,

2 8711's are certainly strong enough. The concern was that the ailerons are very light weight and might flex or worse. I would recommend (3) 8611a's, I would hate to tell you to use 2 servos and have something bad happen. I placed my servos in the middle compartment and the inboard compartment as the aileron is the largest (bearing more load) is those areas. I'd rather have the thick part of a aileron moving a smaller part.

I'll be flying more this weekend and provide more video and data.
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Old 02-11-2008, 09:24 PM   #64
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Nice Dave, LOL...do you make the camera man nervous?
I felt bad after I saw how much he was shaking. Made me think maybe I should be more scared
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Jason,

A lot of guys are going with two. We do recommend three for the ailerons. As Dave mentioned that is one the reasons, use at your own risk. Second, overall performance of the control surface. This plane is obviously bigger than the average 40% out there and it has longer ailerons that are built up. Even if there is no issue using two, there is still going to be some flexing under high loads. Besides, I guarantee you 3 servo equaling 700oz will feel better and crisper than two at 800oz. As many are starting to finding out, this is a pretty killer aircraft, so why not have it operate at full potential.

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Old 02-11-2008, 10:26 PM   #66
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I felt bad after I saw how much he was shaking. Made me think maybe I should be more scared
haha, was he really nervous or just cold? The weather looked pretty darn nice.

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Right on Dave!! Thanks for the report!!! and congrats on the succesful maiden!

We all know this plane ROCKS, it is just gonna take a couple of guys to post their thoughts and it will be the one to have!!

Elie, how many feet of snow do you have to wade through to get to your trailer?

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Old 02-11-2008, 10:45 PM   #68
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Bryan, you could move into Elie's new trailer. It has more square footage than most peoples homes

No thanks, I would not want to know what goes on back there... Last time I was in the back of his truck he was saying something like "I'm Leaking I'm Leaking"
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Jason,

A lot of guys are going with two. We do recommend three for the ailerons. As Dave mentioned that is one the reasons, use at your own risk. Second, overall performance of the control surface. This plane is obviously bigger than the average 40% out there and it has longer ailerons that are built up. Even if there is no issue using two, there is still going to be some flexing under high loads. Besides, I guarantee you 3 servo equaling 700oz will feel better and crisper than two at 800oz. As many are starting to finding out, this is a pretty killer aircraft, so why not have it operate at full potential.

Ken
I should mention that I will be putting 3 8611a's in the ailerons. It's truly the only way to really know what type of difference there is. I want to be able to clearly state from experience what the result is.

On a similar note, I flew this plane with almost all 8711's and my Troybuilt with all 8611a's; both powered by the a123 packs.

POWER CONSUMPTION:
8711's - 510 mha per flight
8611a's - 245 mha per flight

8711's are strong but they also have a big appetite.
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Old 02-12-2008, 01:06 AM   #70
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haha, was he really nervous or just cold? The weather looked pretty darn nice.

Ken
Lets just say it was very warm there and he was a very nice guy.........uh.........k....
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Dave,

The bird looks awesome. Conrats on the successful maiden !!

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Dave,

The bird looks awesome. Conrats on the successful maiden !!

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For those that don't know, back in September while at Huck Fest in Vegas, I ran into engine problems.........again. The engine was not a DA, it was another brand that shall remain nameless. This very well could have been an opportunity for them to take shots at the maker of this engine and beat them down publicly, they didn't. Instead they very kindly offered an engine so I could make an objective decision on the quality of their engines vs. the engines I was using. Long story short, I tried to beat the crap out of the engine, even to the point of Leseberg flying it for his freestyles in the shootout. I hung it on the prop for nearly an entire flight to see if I could hurt it.

For 6 years I have flown another brand of engine very loyally, it only took flying a DA for a few months to realize that between the quality of the product and the superior service, Desert Aircraft is the place to be. I'm a simple guy, I don't care about "brand wars" or who is offering a "free ride" or even the name stamped on the product. I want what works well and a company with good customer service.

Thanks again Bill and Dave and everyone at DA, also thanks to PAU (Ken and Herve) who's products and service are outstanding.

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Elie, how many feet of snow do you have to wade through to get to your trailer?

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Astro, not much snow here but very very cold and windy, I can only wait few more weeks no more ans I'm going flying
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No thanks, I would not want to know what goes on back there... Last time I was in the back of his truck he was saying something like "I'm Leaking I'm Leaking"
That was my truck Brian, no leaking allowed in my trailer.

As for the Edge I installed 2 8711 on each aileron one near the tip and the other close to the fuse, 2 8611 a per elevator, 2 8711 on the rudder, I should have the plane ready in 2 to 3 weeks time and I will report.
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Use a 90 mm drop on the headers, and I am running the MTW 110 rear exit, fits perfectly.
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