37% Ultimates

[joeo78]

guys how do you like this plane compared to the qq pitts python im torn on what to buy for my dl100????

[Islandflyer]

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	Question is...........What color schemes do you have the PAU sticker in? Do you have any really large versions? I'm doing my Ulti in Red/Black/White (maybe a touch of yellow also) Would really like a PAU sticker for the sides of the planes (along with Ultimate)

The PAU vinyl graphics are available in all colors and sizes from Aerographix (agraphix@fidmail.com). Bryan does the graphics for the newer PAU models which include the PAU logo in vinyl.

[sweetpea]

Thanks Herve......I'll look em up there then.

[sweetpea]

	Quote: Originally Posted by joeo78
	guys how do you like this plane compared to the qq pitts python im torn on what to buy for my dl100????

I've never flown the QQ yet. The PAU flies sweet. The DL100 would be a good fit for it as well (mine is getting a 3W106). Remember there is a large price difference from the QQ to the PAU as well.

Big thing is they are 2 different types of Biplanes, so they won't fly exactly the same anyways.......similar to a Cap vs Extra vs Edge vs Yak vs Sukhoi......

[joeo78]

i know theres a huge price difference i have to think about it

[dgiordano]

Joeo, I have run both a 3w106 comp series and the DA100 on my PAU ultimate and for me it is the DA100 hands down. The 3dub had more peak power but they both have more than enough power. The DA is lighter and costs way less. I prefer the DA hands down. My 3dub took for ever to break in and was very tempermental (always needing tuning and needle adjustments), it seemed that every time I went to the field the cowl had to come off for something, however the DA has not needed a thing from day one. It idles great and throttle transition is awsome with no burbles or coughs. I am speaking from my experiences only. I have had several 3w's (one or two ran great for me, 3w 85 and 3w55) but all i buy now are DA's. I know this is kind off a sensative issue so I REPEAT, these are MY experiences only. I would also agree that the pitts and the ulti's are going to fly very different. I prefer ultis for 3D and general sport flyin. The longer fuse of the ulti's and larger control surfaces on the tail feathers gives me a stronger more stable feel. Just my preference. good luck.

[Flyfalcons]

Joeo, I have flown the PAU Ultimate and the QQ Python. Both machines are a lot of fun for 3D but the Ultimate tracks better for precision work. The QQ is bigger than the PAU, but the PAU has better power to weight on the same engine. The QQ has a fatter fuselage with more drag (round cowl), so you'll have a wider speed range with the Ultimate. Both planes draw a crowd as well so it really boils down to which one you think you would like better. The pricing on the Ultimate makes it a great deal.

[Flyfalcons]

	Quote: Originally Posted by castlebravo
	Hi Ryan, The speed on the 94870 is .15 sec @ 6vdc. Comparable to a 5955. Price was a little spendy.....$125 but then again, I was going to run 2 5955's on the rudder so it saved me a little.

Sounds like that will definitely work for your Ulty rudder. I might even check into this servo for use on a 40%er that I'm buying servos for. Good luck with the build!

[joeo78]

sweet thanks for the info guys keep it coming

[castlebravo]

Alrighty Fella's
I'm going way outside the box now.....How about the BME 150LT? I did a seach here and FG coughed up a big hair ball. Weight on this engine is in the 5.5lb region. Price is $100 more than the 116. I have found nobody with any experience on this engine and I dont know if I wanna be a lab rat. I know everyone is pushing the DA but what would an extra 50cc do in the same weight catagory? Your thoughts? I haven't made up my mind either way yet and I need to see what the ole christmas bonus brings this year before I commit to anything (heck.....with the way the economy is......I may be bolting 5 ST 90's to a reduction drive and call it the "Rube Goldberg Giant Scale set up").

[Ken-H]

I would stick to the 116 as it would be a good choice. Your right in that you would be a lab rat with the 150 and this airframe and I would not recommend it. You have to consider vibration as well. Big motor in a smaller plane means there is less airframe there to absorb it.

Ken

[castlebravo]

Thanks Ken! I had not considered the additional vibration. I really think I'm leanin toward the 116 but...........I gotta get that good vibe. Not many here in the Portland area to gleen some real world experience from.

[Ken-H]

	Quote: Originally Posted by castlebravo
	Thanks Ken! I had not considered the additional vibration. I really think I'm leanin toward the 116 but...........I gotta get that good vibe. Not many here in the Portland area to gleen some real world experience from.

I only have experience with the older 110 before the company changed over. So my comments are based really on the 110. The 110 was an outstanding performer in this plane. I am happy with my ZDZ-100 in this plane as well but it does not have the power that 110 did. I have not seen anything from the new BME Engines.

Ken

[claselva31]

Chris that's plenty of power. i'm running all 5955's and one 8711 on the rudder. The plane will do knife edge loops all day long. On the engine, I don't know if they got the problems worked out with there engines overheating or the fins on the 115 breaking off or if their customer service is any good (BME). I've got a DA in mine and with a 27A Vess and 64oz's of fuel and smoke oil on a 90* day I can hover at 30-40% throttle and pull out with smoke on with authority. I've done nothing to lighten the airframe either. Right at 29.5-30lbs. Hope that helps. Chris L.

[Oilsands]

For anyone that is interested and makes their own servo extensions, http://www.thunderboltrc.com/ has some excellent servo wire and connectors. I have tried others, but found this wire to be the best.