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What kind of mid range did he get and at what rpms did the system come on the pipe?
oh yea i forgot to say thanks for the info Thanx for the lead.
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I was testing it on a stand so it's tough to tell still whether it will be peaky or not.
On the stand, I seemed like a pretty smooth powerband, but time will tell in the air. There was still very good throttle response between 3/4 and full throttle!! Cheers Trev |
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Taken from Trev's post to save you all some time!
Ok folks... Jim Daly and I did some serious testing with my DA85 today... all I can say is WOW Read on..... Conditions today: * Temperature = +2°C * Partly Sunny with a nasty wind * Max RPM was taken for a 6 second duration (don't want to overheat it!!) * Tested on my engine stand * Ignition battery is Fromeco 7.4V with Smartfly ignition regulator (5.2V) * Fuel = 91 Octane with 32:1 Pennzoil Air Cooled Oil * Tested JTEC Pitts High Volume and KS1090 Tuned Pipe with "?" Flex Header. * Sound levels taken at 25 ft Xoar 26x10 Sword: Idle = 1520 rpm JTEC High Volume Max = 6380 rpm @ 102 db (very loud) KS1090 Max = 6780 rpm (exhaust quiet but insane prop ripping noise) MenzS 27x10: Idle = 1520 rpm JTEC High Volume Max = 5950 rpm @ 94dB (but sounded quite loud) KS1090 Max = 6580 rpm (still very loud - prop was ripping also) Mejzlik 27x10 CF: Idle = 1520 rpm JTEC High Volume Max = 5910 rpm @ 96dB (but sounded quite loud) KS1090 Max = 6610 rpm (loud prop noise, but not ripping) Vess 28B: Idle = 1420 rpm JTEC High Volume Max = ?? rpm (too big of a prop for this exhaust) KS1090 Max = 6310 rpm (nice and quiet - a bit of prop noise) Mejzlik 28x10 CF: Idle = 1340 rpm JTEC High Volume Max = ?? rpm (too big of a prop for this exhaust) KS1090 Max = 6520 rpm (very quiet - little prop noise - all exhaust sound) Mejzlik 25x12 CF 3-Blade: Idle = 1200 rpm (we had it down to 870rpm though!!!!) JTEC High Volume Max = 5540 rpm @ 96 dB (all exhaust noise) KS1090 Max = 5990 rpm (very quiet - little prop noise - all exhaust sound) Anyone think a 28x12 Mejzlik may be required on pipe?!?
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What tach do you use Trev?
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Just a Hangar9 tach.... To confirm, we also checked a couple of the RPM's with a second tach and they were bang on!
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now that is good deal i did something like 6050 or so on a 28 x 10 Mejzlik on the regual JTEC muffler a few weeks ago in the backyard and i think 5750 on a 27A.
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Those numbers are are understandable
Do not think tho -that yo need to keep adding more prop - 27x10 regular mejzlic is "bout right". adding more prop- will likely kill power - add heat and increase chance for steppy midtange . The right prop wil always end up sounding off in level flight -Somewhere around 6500 on the MEJZLIC 27x10 std not one of the thin ones - sounds like a well setup combo -as long as transition is good and top end is tad rich--this part is trickyfor some to get right and you can overheat an engine My ZDZJ on the big pipes runs in same ball park - you will find that if this runs a bit cranky -- try a 26x12 - slightly less load. It is all a compromise setup. |
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I believe ChrisB (post 6) and TrevB (post 17 + 19) where both running 28x10 std Mejzliks.
Seems like this is the way to a great power setup that is always lighter than a DA100 or 3W 106 setup. Trevor was telling me that his DA85 starts and runs just as reliably as his DA100. I am super happy about this. Also I really value Trevors input as he has experience with a ZDZ80 on pipe, 3W 80xi, 3W106CS, DA100, and DA85 all very recently. Excuse me while I order a DA 85 with a side pipe.
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What pipes are yall using. I have Da-85 with Jtec large volume exhaust. It is currently turning a mejzilk 26*10. Would getting a mej 27*10 or 27*10th be a good choice for IMAC and 3d? Or would it just be a good idea to stick with the mej 26*10. The motor has about 3 gallons thru it. What yall think?
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we use to see a lot of post of what we have been saying all the time since the beginning with nothing but nay sayersssss lol so the word is born lol
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true, the da-85 must be making a lot of power to turn a mejzilk 28*10
krayzc, what prop you running on your Da-85? |
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