WHO is using RCSuperGear C/F Gear?????

[Paul Cataldo]

Guys,
I am looking to find some good QUALITY C/F main gear for my Aeroworks 75cc Extra 260. I do NOT want to use the low quality laminated gear from places like GraphtechRC.com
Those type just plain suck. Yes, they work, but we all know that even if you do not have super hard landings, they can eventually delaminate and look like crap.
SO, I got to thinking about the SWEET, HIGH QUALITY landing gear that are made with a totally different weave/method than the standard layered Graphtech type gear.
I'm sure most of you have seen this type of gear I'm talking about. Some of the high quality 3W Composite planes from Germany come with them, and even the Composite Arf Extras and other planes come with this type of C/F gear. This higher quality type of C/F gear is almost like that of a different BREED of C/F! They are not just simple layered carbon fiber cloth, and while I'm no expert on composites, it's almost like this higher quality carbon weave is something like a radial weave, or some type of intertwined weave that does NOT leave an unfinished edge (like is seen on the actual sides of the Graphtech gear). I'm sure you've all seen the Graphtech gear which is smooth and glossy on the main "flats", but then on the very thin "edges" of the gear, you get that unfinished, "matte" edge which is just not seen on the high quality gear.
SO, enough of my improper composites terminology. The bottom line is that I have been wanting to find some QUALITY landing gear for my AW's 75cc Extra 260.
So I found these guys, after one of our members here on the forum told me about them, and how great their gear quality is. http://www.rcsupergear.com/
Now these guys are producing EXACTLY the same type and quality of C/F gear that I am after. HOWEVER, they do NOT have anything that fits my AW's 75cc 260. My AW's 75cc 260 aluminum gear measures 10.5" wide at the "flat" portion of the gear which is the flat span of the gear that actually bolts up to the underside of the fuselage.
The CLOSEST thing RCSuperGear has is 8.5" wide, and that is for a 40% Carden they say!!!!

What? A 40% sized Carden has a SMALLER width span on their gear at the fuse? That just didn't make sense to me, but oh well.
Fact is, I'm SOL, and these guys at RCSuperGear say that they MAY sometime in the future hook up with Aeroworks, and start producing gear for my plane.
Heck, I'll probably not even OWN this plane by the time that actually happens. They even told me not to hold my breath, as it wouldn't happen anytime soon....

SO, can ANYONE here tell me IF there is SOMEHOW, SOMEWAY that I can find a way to get some C/F gear like this made up for my plane? I REALLY wish there was some company out there who would just make up what I needed, regardless of what my dimensions are.
Heck, you call up Graphtech, and they WANT you to send them new gear, with new dimensions, so they can add any new models dimensions to their lineup.
Can anyone here help guys? I want some QUALITY C/F gear, and NOT the cheaper style Graphtech gear...

[rdgood]

I have used three pair of their gear..

Of course this was some 3 to 6 years ago on a 33% Edge 540 Aeroworks and a 33% Godfrey LAZER 200- twice. A Bipe Ultimate...

The first pair I pounded hard on landing on the LAZER the gear delamed at the bend near the top.. The secondset hung tuff till I sold it.

The other planes it did quite well...

They were better planes - and I was a better pilot also...

FWIW -
Graphtec has a newer method they are using to make their gear now.. I have a set on a Funtana X100 - I must say I have abused quite thoroughly.. They are definitely way better than the fragile gear that comes with the kit - IMHO!!!
I would strongly recommend that you tell them(call them) and voice your concerns... Have you even tried their gear ??? on a plane your size???
Call them and see if they will work something out with you..

I have talked to Graptech several times in the past. Real nice guys - heck can't hurt They might be willing to make a heavy duty set for you??
I am also very skeptical about certain carbon gear..

Heck I have even seen Comp Arf gear delam - !!!
Ronster

[aviti]

I've been using a Graph Tech gear on a 35% Aeroworks Edge for going on 4 seasons and another set on a 35% 260 going on 2 seasons. They both look like new. I'm sure the kind of landing that would bend an aluminum gear could cause the Graph Tech to delaminate but I've even seen those gear repaired successfully. I wish I could say all my landings are perfect but I've had few less than perfect over 3 or 4 years and still the gear have held up. I've got a new pair of Graph Tech gear mounted on a 40% Carden Edge. It's not done yet but hopefully they will hold up as well as the 35% gear I've been using. I've got a milled aluminum gear for a back-up in case the Graph Tech gear breaks on my 40%.

[Highlights]

I'm with the author. I want finished edges on my gear. Not something that looks stamped out. The gear for the 46% Ultimate is massive. I wonder who originally makes thes up for H9. The rest of the gear out there just looks flimsy.

Fibre lite wasn't too bad. I had a pair and they held up. Don't think they are in business anymore though.

[as722]

I have one on my carden 300, it has over two hundred flights with zero problems. As far as quality and looks nothing compares.


Albert

[Paul Cataldo]

Yes guys,
I have used tons of Graphtech products, and many different main gear on many different planes from them.
I know they are not TOTAL JUNK, but the RCSUpergear, 3W gear, and Composite Arf gear are MUCH nicer, and made better. This is a fact, not an opinion.
Now I totally realize ANY gear from ANY company can delam, and become damaged. This is just a possibility that comes with the territory. Just as aluminum gear can bend, ANY C/F can delam/break/become damaged.
HOWEVER, as stated, there is MUCH nicer, higher quality gear processed in a superior method (if nothing else, at least a superior FINISH) than the Graphtech.
Nothing against Graphtech, and I know he's a nice guy, but I want something like 3W and Composite Arf is selling.
Just wondering if there is ANY other company out there, or any other option out there to source such gear from????

[dunny]

Paul,
I have owned 3 gears from RC Supergear and couldn't be happier with the quality of the product that Brian provides. The first one I bought for a 34% CHP Extra was actually a gear for a 38% Aeroworks extra- he also did not have the exact dimensions as the syock aluminum gear, but the one I got looked like it belonged on the airplane. The two others that I have owned are for my 38% Columbo Anderson Extra- the first one broke due to a landing in the dirt from a flameout and the current one has about 20 flights with no signs of any wear and tear (that's coming from a guy that greases about 30% of his landings). Hope this helps!

Dunny

[rdgood]

Paul,

If your looking for a finished product - I don't think RCSupergear are what a call a finished looking product.. At least the ones I got several years ago... I had to sand them down and get the rough edges off I remember rounding over the lead and trailing edges of the gear so to speak..and wet sanding them so they looked nice and shiney. Of course they could be doing things differently now....???
heres another idea - you could go to Comp ARF and order a two peice style gear for your plane... Just a thought...
http://www.composite-arf.com.hk/arf/...36-LG-legs.jpg

60 bucks

Ronster

[dunny]

	Quote: Originally Posted by rdgood
	Paul, If your looking for a finished product - I don't think RCSupergear are what a call a finished looking product.. At least the ones I got several years ago... I had to sand them down and get the rough edges off I remember rounding over the lead and trailing edges of the gear so to speak..and wet sanding them so they looked nice and shiney. Of course they could be doing things differently now....??? heres another idea - you could go to Comp ARF and order a two peice style gear for your plane... Just a thought... http://www.composite-arf.com.hk/arf/...36-LG-legs.jpg 60 bucks Ronster

Ronster,
I did NOT have to do that to any of mine, all edges rounded and finnished- I just primed and painted!!

Dunny

[DKnippen]

	Quote: Originally Posted by as722
	I have one on my carden 300, it has over two hundred flights with zero problems. As far as quality and looks nothing compares. Albert

I agree with Albert. It looks great, and the best quality gear I've found. It's very hard to get though.

[rdgood]

Albert and Dunny,

Cooool - It was a several years ago...

It sounds like to me - the longevity issue may just be how the landing gear is treated. When I say treated I mean how many times ya pound it in...IMHO...

My two cents - OK 4 cents...


Ronster

[Flyinrazrback]

I have one of the new rcsupergear gears for a 40% carden edge on my pau 36% edge since it was the same dimensions. The gear is finished in piano black and just awesome looking and very stout. I would buy another one in a heartbeat. Also, I have had good luck with the graphtech gears as well, the 4D newer version.

[Paul Cataldo]

Can someone post pics of this newer Graphtech "4D" version? Can someone also tell me HOW they differ from the other gear such as RCSuperGear, 3W/Germany Gear, and Composite Arf gear?
I have never seen the RCSuperGear UP CLOSE IN MY HANDS, but I have seen the website pics, and I am ASSUMING that the RCSuperGear are very similar (if not exactly like) the Composite Arf brand landing gear.
Can anyone CONFIRM this assumption????

Finally, in regards to the quality of these "higher end" C/F gear companies. Well, I know for a fact that I've got MANY a buddy who are flying these higher quality type landing gear, and they have NEVER had ANY problem with them, over the course of MANY MANY years with their Composite Arf brand gear. I don't know what RCSuperGear was producing years ago, but I think any issues are over and done with, as their product now looks awesome, and I've heard nothing but great feedback.
What is the new Graphtech "4D" (4-dimensional????) gear look like as compared to the other high end gear????

[as722]

I just want to let you guys know that these new super gears are totally different. The company was sold and the only thing that's the same is the name, the new gear has a smooth finish with no pin holes and it is airfoiled not flat.


Albert

[50%plane]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Cataldo
	Can someone post pics of this newer Graphtech "4D" version? Can someone also tell me HOW they differ from the other gear such as RCSuperGear, 3W/Germany Gear, and Composite Arf gear? I have never seen the RCSuperGear UP CLOSE IN MY HANDS, but I have seen the website pics, and I am ASSUMING that the RCSuperGear are very similar (if not exactly like) the Composite Arf brand landing gear. Can anyone CONFIRM this assumption???? Finally, in regards to the quality of these "higher end" C/F gear companies. Well, I know for a fact that I've got MANY a buddy who are flying these higher quality type landing gear, and they have NEVER had ANY problem with them, over the course of MANY MANY years with their Composite Arf brand gear. I don't know what RCSuperGear was producing years ago, but I think any issues are over and done with, as their product now looks awesome, and I've heard nothing but great feedback. What is the new Graphtech "4D" (4-dimensional????) gear look like as compared to the other high end gear????

Paul, I don't know much about RCSuper Gear, but the set of Graphtec that I have is a POS. Graphtec obviously has no idea what they're doing, at least at the time these were made. Graphtec gives CF landing gear a bad name. A 4D weave isn't really necessary IMO.


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