Kiwi's XPS test results are up.

[USN_POPS]

I can't complain about shipping from China. I order batteries direct from a factory in China to save a few bucks. I place the order on a Monday, Pay by PayPal, and the batteries are on my doorstep by Friday, or the following Monday at the latest. And they are high quality batteries.

[chewy]

	Quote: Originally Posted by RichardCorby
	I can't complain about shipping from China. I order batteries direct from a factory in China to save a few bucks. I place the order on a Monday, Pay by PayPal, and the batteries are on my doorstep by Friday, or the following Monday at the latest. And they are high quality batteries.

Dick,

Could you please let us in on this nice battery deal? What's their website?

chewy

[Flyfalcons]

	Quote: Originally Posted by XJet
	I demand video evidence!

I heard there is video out there that proves I'm a hot Swedish bikini model. However I did some calling around to find it and they said it was just a video showin how Swedish bikini models interact with each other in real life outdoor cafeteria situations. They are redoing the video of Swedish bikini models, myself included.

[Four Stroker]

"Funny thing.. I got a spam just yesterday from a Chinese company offering to make custom injection-molded plastic parts to my specs/design with a turnaround measured in *days*."

Here in Atlanta, send the CAD files and get plastic boxes in two weeks. They prefer 1000's. That's a steel mold. About $5K engineering cost. Any material/color you want.

[Fish07]

	Quote: Originally Posted by XJet
	I demand video evidence!

ME to !!!

[USN_POPS]

	Quote: Originally Posted by chewy
	Dick, Could you please let us in on this nice battery deal? What's their website? chewy

The order has to be a big one. I get together with about 6 others once or twice a year, and we create a big order in the range of $500 to $1000. They don't send in small quantities.

I actually do this as a favor to club members.

[porcupineace]

nevr mind

[porcupineace]

man..... i've been reading the posts from this thread for a while and it seems like you all go in circles......you can do that flying at the field....Excellent job KIWI! at least someone is really trying to sort it out.

[madmax]

Would love to do some moderation with this, but we got burnt out on the dealing with aftermath of the genius XPS internet gorilla marketing tactics long ago. Not FG's mess.

[porcupineace]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Cherokee Jim
	Hey Sweetpea, I agree with your thinking! I am conducting my own test out in the field and not on a bench. I have been in RC for more than 40 years and electronics just as long. So far in my test I have not seen the problems some are having with XPS or Spektrum. My test are on going. I don't try to Jam the entire band, the input of any radio can be overpowered, with enough power I can take a 72MHz system and Jam your 2.4GHz system - how? Will enough power can feed the circuit at any point in the circuit, just bypassing the front end. What should be of much more concern to all is the Battery/Power Distribution problems --- much much more of a problem. So far I consider the Spektrum and XPS to equal in reliability, I don't have a Futaba Radio. I am trying to get confirmation but I hear the AMA has done or has had done test on the XPS, Spektrum, and the Futaba Systems and Futaba came in last! There is more to a reliable radio than just Frequency Hopping. Need to find that report. For all of the Radio systems out there we want to do whatever possible to make them reliable - the choice among radios usually boils down to how one like the look and feel and their programing, what servos are offered, their service, etc. Lawyers! Thats just what we need - Shysters hanging out at the flying field Ready and More than willing to purse a law suite at the drop of a hat. Did you ever wonder how Japan survives with only 1% Lawyers per Capita as the USA has? So folks don't sit around and take someone else's word for something, get out and do the experiments yourselves. 2.4 GHz Spread Spectrum systems are new and evolving, techniques will change, it has with every system that has ever come out. Happy Flying, Cherokee Jim Mahoney

Then i would get a futaba 2.4 ghz radio and do side by side tests. And show me the report from AMA. I WOULD like to see that. So would everyone else. Not cutting you up, but i would prefer to see a live test (bench or otherwise), and you do not provide any proof other than hearsay. The point is ...will it or wont it hop, isnt it?

[porcupineace]

	Quote: Originally Posted by XJet
	I demand video evidence!

so do I!!!

[porcupineace]

	Quote: Originally Posted by madmax
	Would love to do some moderation with this, but we got burnt out on the dealing with aftermath of the genius XPS internet gorilla marketing tactics long ago. Not FG's mess.

dang ...you're up early

[KrisW]

	Quote: Originally Posted by porcupineace
	dang ...you're up early

Actually, he was probably up packing for the NALL, and finally managed to get over to the computer and look at all the insanity that happened in the 6 hours he had been away .. More like a late night than an early morning.

Sometimes I pity Maxxon. . then I remember that he actually did this to himself, and I just larf and larf. . .

[spoiler]

	Quote: Originally Posted by sweetpea
	The reason why I wouldn't ask.......... XPS nor any other radio manufacturer states what type of plane, servo, motor, battery etc you use. Should they be liable for someone that chose to spend the max amount of money on every item? What if everything you put in the plane was used already from another plane? Now you also get into depreciation. How do you figure that in? Once a package has been opened the item is worth significantly less. Too many variables to expect any company to pay top dollar. If you can't afford to lose your plane due to your own fault, someone elses fault (i.e. midair/shootdown etc) or a manufacturer defect or fault then find another hobby or fly smaller, less expensive planes. I've lost 2 planes to a JR rx........never asked them for any money. I only asked them to replace the RX (which they never did as they couldn't find anything wrong with it). So I took a hammer to it. I'm still out the 2 planes and the RX but you don't see me bashing JR all day long.......I still fly JR

You are correct, but only up to a point. There are faulty units out there from all manufacturers, but thats far from a design flaw in a system that touts itelf to be as good as its main rivals, which renders it inferior and seriously inferior in certain applications, such as expensive, fast complicated jets and GS aerobats. If you could prove that JR sold you faulty Rx's, you'd have a case against them too. The difficulty with all of this is that the amounst involve daren't always worth fighting about and its the proof thats hard to come by...

[porcupineace]

true ...an expensive hobby...and PROOF. hard to come by. and THIS IS an experimental hobby after all , isnt it?