Kiwi's XPS test results are up.

[4*60]

I see things haven't changed here. Go away for a few months and same old same old from the barking dogs. Watch out big ones pee on little ones!

[JimDrew]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Woketman
	Or he is completely full of BS!!! As he was when claiming that Version 1 hopped!!!!

Apparently you missed the large number of people who tested themselves, as well as videos proving this fact? We milked that publicity for everything we could... much like reviving this thread brings more people to our website.

[dirtybird]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Julez
	Well, Futaba, for example, also claims to have a patent: http://2.4gigahertz.com/features/features.html And guess what? They display the patent number right in the feature list. With google, one lands here: http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6141392.pdf Would it not be a great way of advertising XPS, if people could easily find real patent numbers with real patents? No wonder XPS has become the laughing stock all over Germany. I am really happy that this strategy does not work out in the rest of the world. Here is a survey about what people currently use in Europe (354 answers): And here is what they intend to buy if they are in the market for a new system (105 answers): Source: http://www.rc-network.de/forum/showthread.php?t=153255

And the big dog goes Volf, Volf, Volf, Volf, Volf.(The W in German is pronounced like V in English)
Please don't pee on the little dog.

[Chris F]

	Quote: Originally Posted by JimDrew
	Apparently you missed the large number of people who tested themselves, as well as videos proving this fact? We milked that publicity for everything we could... much like reviving this thread brings more people to our website.

That's an interesting way of marketing your product. Make claims, don't back them up and then let your customers try and work out for themselves if it works. V1 didn't frequency hop as advertised and Jim can't even quote a patent number for his antenna. With so many credible systems out there XPS will always be a small player. Big enough to make Jim a lot of money though I guess. Every one at my club got rid of their XPS gear long ago.

[dirtybird]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Chris F
	That's an interesting way of marketing your product. Make claims, don't back them up and then let your customers try and work out for themselves if it works. V1 didn't frequency hop as advertised and Jim can't even quote a patent number for his antenna. With so many credible systems out there XPS will always be a small player. Big enough to make Jim a lot of money though I guess. Every one at my club got rid of their XPS gear long ago.

Unfortunately the tester did not prove that the system did not hop. He proved it would not hop under his simulated conditions. During the test, he should have had a way to prove the system was not in saturation. Without that information the test is worthless.
If anyone would like to sell their XPS system, let me know. I would like to pick up a few more receivers at a good price

[Woketman]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Chris F
	That's an interesting way of marketing your product. Make claims, don't back them up and then let your customers try and work out for themselves if it works. V1 didn't frequency hop as advertised and Jim can't even quote a patent number for his antenna. With so many credible systems out there XPS will always be a small player. Big enough to make Jim a lot of money though I guess. Every one at my club got rid of their XPS gear long ago.

Yeah, we still have one guy that flies XPS. Everyone else wised up and ditched their XPS. But when that guy flies, we all keep an eye out. Don't wanna get hit in the head by the special spherical BS patent!!!!

Julez, face it. He will never give up the patent number. He can not state what does not exist!!!

[JimDrew]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Chris F
	That's an interesting way of marketing your product. Make claims, don't back them up and then let your customers try and work out for themselves if it works. V1 didn't frequency hop as advertised and Jim can't even quote a patent number for his antenna.

Not only did v1 hop, we provided complete proof along with video proof to the public, and MAAA. We deliberately did not provide any information about this until we absolutely had to... why? Because during this controversy, our sales trippled. This is similar to this thread bringing customers to us.

The patents for the RF module we use do not belong to us, which is why I stated to contact the actual manufacturer for the information.

[Chris F]

This thread might attract interest from potential customers, but I doubt it has a positive effect on them. If I marketed my business like this I would have to admit I had let myself down. Why not back your products with all the information people need to justify a decision to buy XPS? I was very keen to buy XPS when it first came out, but changed my mind when reading forums like this one. Jim's type of "controversy" advertising might attract a few extra customers, but repel many more at the same time. If the big players in this game marketed their products in this way their sales would surely drop very quickly. The more I think about the whole XPS situation I realise how crazy it all is. Good luck to you Jim, I'm sure you are doing very well out of XPS, but believe me you could be doing so much better. I'm glad there are so many other 2.4 systems to choose from now.

[Woketman]

Exactly. JD is, and will remain, a small time con man.

[aramsdell]

My planes must fly themselves then. If the radio doesn't work then they fly by an act of God. So, since I am close with the 'Big Guy' I want you to all bow and worship me. Or......

Maybe my radios do work and I am just Friggin happy as can be with my XPS recievers.

Who has some for sale? Uncrashed of course. I'm sure you can prove that they are in fact not crashed right?

[Woketman]

Aramsdell, please DO NOT accept ANY XPS recievers as anyone says are not crashed!!! With the well known XPS record, you are either the only person that has not yet crashed or have not been honest. As we all know VERY well, if it is XPS, it is reliable enough for a foamy, but NOTHING else!!!!

[USN_POPS]

As PT Barnum said "there's a sucker born every minute"

For wht it's worth.

[aramsdell]

For what it's worth. Power your system correctly and have no problems.

I have been flying my $2000.00 + helicam on a gen 1 XPS system with ZERO problems. This also has an Eagle Tree data logger and FMA(proeviously AP2000i) IR stabilisation system. I put a servo current sensor on it to log the operating current of the airborn electronics and am satisfied that my type of flying is not liable to brown-out my Rx despite theamount of equipment being powered. I use a 4A SBEC off the flight battery. I will not run out of battery power for sure. I fly digital servos and still my flight loads are low. If I were 3D ing a heli I'm sure I could drag down the voltage on heavy ccpm head use but my point is this and still this....
Power it right, keep the antenna from being overly shaded, go fly.
I have (3) 6 ch park receivers. They all flew at the NEAT Fair this year. Anyone in this forum go besides me? I saw another XPS Rx there, in a rather large aircraft. He was happy. One of those 6Ch Park Rx's was in a position to get shaded by a rather large Lipo. It has never caused a problem though. 4S 4900 Rhino is pretty big. It was in my 39.5 inch Spifire. It was so fast(because it's heavy) I had to fly a LARGE pattern way to the top of the ridge . I was nearing the 1000 ft. advertised range but I wasn't concerned. I power my models right and they have worked without fail.
Perhaps those of you bashing this equipment just can't bring yourselves to admit you might have done something, anything, wrong. You used a cheap switch, poor battery/wiring etc. Perhaps some of you have switched to another radio system and keep bashing to get brownie-points with a sponsor??
I don't know Jim D. personally, but as long as his equip continues to work for me I'll keep shopping there.

Hey Jim, still waiting on the tiny XPS Rx's. It's winter(tomorrow) and indoors is one of my goals.


Al Ramsdell

Got XPS New-in-box? I'll give you $10.00. Then laugh.

[Woketman]

No, sadly you are wrong. Many of us have been flying for 30+ years, turbines for ten and understand power systems in great detail. You have been lucky so far. Experience with XPS bears that out. You are living on borrowed time, plain and simple. But if you want to go on fooling yourself, so be it. Just try and not hurt someone when your XPS luck runs out.... it always does!

[jonkoppisch]

I have an 'uncrashed' receiver for sale... Must be uncrashed as it wasn't it's fault, right?

Since that time, I've put together 1 more 42% and 3 more Jets and flown them successfully... Not to mention all of the smaller planes. Problem solved!