Kiwi's XPS test results are up.

[Woketman]

Seems quite typical of the XPS experience, Jon. Sorry you had to learn the hard way.

Obviously the vast majority have spoken AND voted: XPS is junk. Go with a proven 2.4 GHz solution. Forget the lies from JD and move on!

[JimDrew]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Woketman
	Aramsdell, please DO NOT accept ANY XPS recievers as anyone says are not crashed!!! With the well known XPS record, you are either the only person that has not yet crashed or have not been honest. As we all know VERY well, if it is XPS, it is reliable enough for a foamy, but NOTHING else!!!!

LOL! You are simply rididulous. There are well over 100,000 complete systems in use world-wide, and we are not even sure exactly how many extra receivers at this point. There aren't just a handful of systems being used by a few select people. These are everywhere. Do the math, that is millions of dollars worth of radio systems sold. You can not have that level of success if there are problems.

We demo all over the world, flying everything from foamies to high dollar turbines, and in 5 years of using the system, have you ever seen a report of us crashing? Of course not, the system works exactly how it was designed when powered properly.

[Woketman]

Right......

Ask anyone flying turbines or high dollar scale applications: you will find without dissent: no one will trust their planes to XPS. No one!!!!

The truth has been exposed through years of experience. FASST or Spektrum, ot better yet Weatronics. But certainly NOT XPS!!!!

[aviti]

I didn't know this system was still around. Never saw one in person.

[Woketman]

There ya go. That says a lot!!!

[JimDrew]

We have over $100,000 worth of turbine jets and helis ourselves that we demo. Look at all of the high dollar turbine setups being used throughout Europe, as well as the U.S. Even people like Nick Ziroli uses our system for his turbine and other aircraft. Apparently you are in shear disbelief at the number of systems in use. This will be our 4th year of selling this system, our numbers grow more each year, and we simply are not going anywhere due to the success of this product.

[Woketman]

Sure... Take a look at the surveys of 2.4 systems in use on R/C U. XPS is always a minor player at best. Jim, you left that little detail out. Why?

[aramsdell]

Woketman, If you've had problems with XPS I'm sure you've expressed your concerns completely. It would seem more, now, that your posts border on the vindictive here. I'll be expecting to see you write...." I'm doing this for everyones' good etc" go ahead. Prove me right. I do believe I saw you posting in a thread on Futabas 2.4 overheating???? By-the-way, I have nothing to gain except seeing JD do even better and come up with even more great things that I can use.

JD got XPS stickers?
Al

[Woketman]

You are wrong. I personally have not had any issues with the original version of XPS that I had. But I wised up before using it in any valued aircraft. Ask around: only a fool would use XPS in a turbine. Anyone in the jet community knows that, too many smoking holes blamed on XPS. Ask Jim, they were all user error!!!

No, XPS is just fine for foamies, but nothing more.

[JimDrew]

While you are busy "asking around" there are an incredible number of people flying with our system, including turbine pilots. A plane is a plane - a radio system doesn't care what it is in. Reliability is the same for a turbine as it is for a foamie, or a boat, or a car.

"User error" is almost always due to using a regulator or some other power system that fails. Do a quick search on "2.4GHz" and "power requirements" you will see a long history of problems with people not powering their systems properly (all brands of 2.4GHz). 2.4GHz radios use computers (3 CPUs are in each of our receivers), and much like your home PC if you don't power it properly, it will reboot. By contrast, 72MHz systems can run on fractions of a volt and never have any type of rebooting going on, they just momentarily "glitch". The reality is that we have been improperly powering our 72MHz systems for decades, and have only gotten away with it because of the CMOS components being tolerent to near zero voltage situations.

Al, we have a media kit on our website so that you can make your own stickers. We tried making stickers in the past, and we could not make everyone happy without have 50 different sizes, so we opted for the media kit so you could size them however you want and print them yourself.

[skubacb]

These so called experts are so boring. Remember how they stated that you must have antenna diversity, two antennas, or the system wouldn't work. Well, now others such as Hitec, Futaba, and Spectrum have RX with only one antenna. Seems they are catching up with XPS.

So much for the "self proclaimed experts". Guess they aren't so expert after all. Every old claim they made has been disproved. But they childishly continue to beg for attention.

[Julez]

	Quote:
	Remember how they stated that you must have antenna diversity, two antennas, or the system wouldn't work.

I do not remember such a statement. What was said, was, that a system with only one antenna would work less reliably. But surely you can prove me wrong, can't you?

	Quote:
	Well, now others such as Hitec, Futaba, and Spectrum have RX with only one antenna. Seems they are catching up with XPS.

Sure, parkflyer-grade RXes can work perfectly with only one antenna. But unless one ignores the laws of physics, antenna diversity always offers a better safety margin.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antenna_diversity

[Woketman]

	Quote: Originally Posted by JimDrew
	While you are busy "asking around" there are an incredible number of people flying with our system, including turbine pilots. A plane is a plane - a radio system doesn't care what it is in. Reliability is the same for a turbine as it is for a foamie, or a boat, or a car. "User error" is almost always due to using a regulator or some other power system that fails. Do a quick search on "2.4GHz" and "power requirements" you will see a long history of problems with people not powering their systems properly (all brands of 2.4GHz). 2.4GHz radios use computers (3 CPUs are in each of our receivers), and much like your home PC if you don't power it properly, it will reboot. By contrast, 72MHz systems can run on fractions of a volt and never have any type of rebooting going on, they just momentarily "glitch". The reality is that we have been improperly powering our 72MHz systems for decades, and have only gotten away with it because of the CMOS components being tolerent to near zero voltage situations. Al, we have a media kit on our website so that you can make your own stickers. We tried making stickers in the past, and we could not make everyone happy without have 50 different sizes, so we opted for the media kit so you could size them however you want and print them yourself.

Blah, blah, blah!!!

I assure you Jim, I know many of the driving folks in the turbine field and have been flying turbines for over ten years now. No one, and I mean NO ONE that I know or have even heard of that is known to ANY degree in turbines would even consider putting XPS in their valued airframe, PERIOD!!! No doubt there are a few folks that do fly XPS in turbines, but they are either sponsored by you, personal friends of yours, or simply mis-informed. Either way, they are in for a sad, sad lesson on 2.4 GHz system reliability that others had to learn the hard way a few years ago.

Your time tested technique of blaming it on the user by telling everyone we are all idiots where power systems are concerned does not stand up to scrutiny either. Severeal of the early turbine disasters were guys that I know and respect. They understood power systems and had adequate (demonstrated) systems in their jets for 2.4 systems. They lost big $$$ cause they were naive and trusted first gen XPS. None of these guys had any trouble with power for Futaba (we all know there were early power issues with Spektrum, but not 100% of crashes like Jim claims).

I hear the current version that actually does hop is likely far better, but JD has spewed far too much nonsense to be trusted now. And of course he will now claim that all this controversy helps sell more XPS. I no longer believe that either, just more crap from JD. I believe in warning as many as possible about the lies from XPS as often as possible so that they may buy reliable R/C gear.

[aviti]

What I find interesting is people will buy a system from a guy who brags that all the bad publicity and unsatisfied customers are his greatest driver of sales.

[Boomhauer]

You can sure tell it is wintertime, everybody went back to bickering and moaning cause they cant fly now.