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Old 02-13-2010, 07:04 AM   #976
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Default Re: Kiwi's XPS test results are up.

Oh, and just to make the fantasy complete, now he's gonna claim that I just sold four hundred more XPS units by keeping the controversy going!!!! HA!!! What a BS'r that guy is!
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Old 02-13-2010, 08:03 PM   #977
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My next receiver purchases are going to be XPS.

Lots of anecdotal comments going on here. People , like myself, can tell of thier experiences but sweeping statements with nothing but your mouth behind it??????


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He has lost all credibility with the majority of those who have followed this saga. Only the fan-boys believe him now!

Did you ask the majority of the nearly 50.000 people who have viewed this thread? Actual number will be lower due to the fact that almost 1000 replies have been made on this thread. If I am to believe you then there should be more than 25,000 negative posts on this thread. Get a life Woketman. Who wronged you so bad all you can do is hate? Couldn't just be some percieved wrongdoing by XPS, you have issues, so much hate. Get some sunlight man.
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Old 02-14-2010, 04:09 AM   #978
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[]They cried and kicked and moaned about how XPS with only a single antenna could not work because 2.4 required 'antenna diversity'.

Now that many other companies are only using one antenna and even Spectrum is shown to be using only one antenna. They will not apologize for being rude and abrasive and wrong.
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Noone ever said a 2.4GHz system could not work without diversity. Wy do you have to resort to using a strawman? The consent was just, that diversity makes the link more reliable. This is why Spektrum's or Futaba's non-diversity RXes are all intended for parkflyers. Nearly every system will be able to work without it, but with diversity, you will always be better off. Its is just like anti skid braking or seatbelts. One might never need them, but still it is better to have those.
It is always a matter of each individual's standards.
Check this:
http://www.flyelectric.ukgateway.net/rx70ant.htm
One can nicely see, how each antenna sometimes gets a pretty crappy signal, as it can be expected. But what is important, is, that the antennas do practically never fail at the same time. When one fails for a brief moment, the other one provides a decent signal. THAT is what diversity is all about.


Oh, btw, ever seen the new XPS RXes? I wonder why they all have diversity...

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Old 02-14-2010, 12:32 PM   #979
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My next receiver purchases are going to be XPS.

Lots of anecdotal comments going on here. People , like myself, can tell of thier experiences but sweeping statements with nothing but your mouth behind it??????





Did you ask the majority of the nearly 50.000 people who have viewed this thread? Actual number will be lower due to the fact that almost 1000 replies have been made on this thread. If I am to believe you then there should be more than 25,000 negative posts on this thread. Get a life Woketman. Who wronged you so bad all you can do is hate? Couldn't just be some percieved wrongdoing by XPS, you have issues, so much hate. Get some sunlight man.
Sweeping statements with nothing but mouth behind it? Oh, you mean like JD's claims that 1st gen hopped? Kiwi's vids proved that was another load of JD crap.

What hate? All I have posted is fact. If you cannot learn from the past to see that when ever JD is talking, he is spouting lies, then go ahead and buy more XPS. As PT Barnum said, one born every minute!!! Oops, I just sold 10,000 more units for Jim, HA!
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Old 02-14-2010, 08:20 PM   #980
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You didn't ask those 25000 did you? You spent that time changing the subject. I'm gong to vote you out later this year.
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Old 02-15-2010, 12:01 PM   #981
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Sweeping statements with nothing but mouth behind it? Oh, you mean like JD's claims that 1st gen hopped? Kiwi's vids proved that was another load of JD crap.
You are mistaken. Kiwi's video just proved that our receivers are more sensitive than others and can have the front-end saturated at close proximity with high power. When you move our receiver a foot away from the noise generator, it has absolutely no problem receiving data. Keep in mind that it requires 4 times the power to affect a device at double the distance. So, if a device has a problem at 1 foot with 100mw of transmission power, it would take 400mw when at 2 feet to cause the same problem. Do the math, it would take an incredible amount of power to affect something while in flight.

We provided video proof that our system does hop (with the original mode) several years ago.
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Old 02-15-2010, 12:11 PM   #982
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We provided video proof that our system does hop (with the original mode) several years ago.
Can you post a link to that? Thanks.
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Old 02-15-2010, 03:51 PM   #983
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Woketman, posts here because this is the only place in his life he gets attention.

It really is nasty and in poor taste to keep telling people that are flying a system that works that they are stupid.

At our field people are consistently losing airplanes to Spectrum. This does not happen often but it continues to occur. What happens is that at some time the aircraft just stops talking to the transmitter. End of story for the aircraft. We have people from many clubs visiting and their experiences are the same. Two years without incident and then ... no control what so ever. This does not happen to everyone but it is happening enough that it has happened in every club where I have talked to people.

So it is interesting that W, who is so concerned about everyone else in the hobby, doesn't jump on that. Why isn't he warning people about the consistent loss of planes with Spectrum. Or why not warn them about some of the Spectrum receivers that cause a full down elevator or other problems with the Spectrum park flyers. Mmmm seems to be an agenda here. If you are a new guy on the block try to kill him.

Go read your last 50 posts W. You have never added a fact. You have never done any testing. You have never lost an airplane to XPS. Yet you continue to accuse others of baloney when that is all you spew.
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Old 02-15-2010, 04:00 PM   #984
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Spring is coming. Skubacb just let some fresh air into this thread.Thanks.
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Old 02-15-2010, 04:05 PM   #985
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Wojcigitty, How's the weather over there? I flew yesterday and today in 15+ mph here in Sanford, Me. I'm working near you in Exeter.
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Old 02-15-2010, 04:11 PM   #986
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Default Re: Kiwi's XPS test results are up.

I don't recall seeing that hopping video either Jim Drew. Just post the link so we can put this thread to rest. Do you have it Skubacb? Do you post on any other threads here Scubacb?
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Old 02-15-2010, 05:21 PM   #987
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"Go read your last 50 posts W. You have never added a fact. You have never done any testing. You have never lost an airplane to XPS. Yet you continue to accuse others of baloney when that is all you spew. "



OK, then. How about showing us the Boeing data???

That's what I thought, fan-boy!
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Old 02-15-2010, 06:30 PM   #988
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50 pages. . about 10-12 are worth reading, and the rest are finger pointing, accusations, and rehashing the same thing over and over again.

No matter how good the product becomes, XPS has no credibility any more and cannot produce the "proof" the company claims to have. If they could it would be all over the internet. Since it's not on the internet, it does not exist.. When we see it, we will believe it.

Pointing fingers at Spektrum for alleged "failures" is called an ad hominem attach. . like OH YEAH? well YOUR stufff is just as bad. . . . Pointing fingers at FASST is just as bad. If you cannot stand up for your product without accusing others then you are not worth buying from. The same goes for those who support XPS in lieu of offficial statements from the Owner of XPS.

This thread has turned into a whirlwind of repetitious, tedious statements.

I vote for closure of this thread. All in favor say AYE. . All opposed may shut up.
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Old 02-15-2010, 07:48 PM   #989
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Old 02-15-2010, 08:30 PM   #990
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The videos showing proof are posted in our RCGroups support forum. The thread info explained exactly what was going on with Kiwi's test and showed that moving the receiver away from the noise generator stopped the "problem" (which was just front-end saturation) from occurring. We also recorded the noise level on a flight and "played" back that flight to cause one of our receivers to hop. Also pointed out by many, many, people in various threads from all over the world is that the XDP analyzer clearly showed that they took off on one frequency and landed on another. The MAAA in Australia required the proof and that is what really prompted us to release it to the public, otherwise I would have kept everyone guessing. This subject trippled our sales. I wish I could cause some other type of chaos.

It's interesting that you don't hear much about things like the $21,000 jet that we watched fly away over the weekend - using a JR 12x (Spektrum) system.
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