Kiwi's XPS test results are up.

[Wojcigitty]

OK, I sorted through the support forum and found the videos if anybody is interested.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=971683

[KrisW]

	Quote: Originally Posted by JimDrew
	The videos showing proof are posted in our RCGroups support forum. The thread info explained exactly what was going on with Kiwi's test and showed that moving the receiver away from the noise generator stopped the "problem" (which was just front-end saturation) from occurring. We also recorded the noise level on a flight and "played" back that flight to cause one of our receivers to hop. Also pointed out by many, many, people in various threads from all over the world is that the XDP analyzer clearly showed that they took off on one frequency and landed on another. The MAAA in Australia required the proof and that is what really prompted us to release it to the public, otherwise I would have kept everyone guessing. This subject trippled our sales. I wish I could cause some other type of chaos. It's interesting that you don't hear much about things like the $21,000 jet that we watched fly away over the weekend - using a JR 12x (Spektrum) system.

Allright Jimbo .. WHY did it fly away.

You are the big bad expert. . tell us why it flew away. . . tel us everything about it, down to what failed and why it failed. . .and bring PROOF of it.

If you can't . . admit it, and be quiet.

I'm getting tired of your 2nd grade attitude.

[Woketman]

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=9507994 read post #984.

Remember guys: we all know (even you Fan-Boys) that JD is full of it most of the time. So many lies for so long, how can ANYONE believe what he says???

[skubacb]

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[skubacb]

So W does it again. Proof is posted of freq jumping and he cries that can't be! Don't bother him with facts, that is no fun! LOL

Spectrum systems have been allowing planes to go to no control at all, since it was released. Why ask JD to prove anything about it? Why aren't W and others climbing all over this about the Spectrum systems and their loss of control. Hey, W do something for a change. Go out and do some testing. Oh, forgot, you have trouble even reading reports. Spectrum can no longer claim it is inadequate power systems. So just what is it? Here's your chance go save those poor Spectrum users.

My point is that W and others only make fallacious claims about a system that seems to be working quite well. While another system seems to be consistently losing aircraft. Now let me see. One keeps losing aircraft and one works just fine. Which one should they be saving the public from? So it seems quite stupid to not talk about problems with other systems. Of course if you have an agenda then continue to keep the head in the sand.

[Julez]

Well, whenever an XPS controlled plane crashes, the manufacturer and fanboys blame it by default on a bad installation, bad batterys, BECs, Switches, etc...
But when other planes crash, it is always the bad radio system causing it.
Hmmmm

Oh, and here's a video showing that Tacomas are meteor-proof.
http://www.youtube.de/watch?gl=DE&hl=de&v=-_OtbXmu9kg
This video is supposed to show that Spektrum and Fasst quit at the same low voltage level:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwnM9pBH9QM#t=2m25s
All it shows in reality is that the servos they use quit at the same level, which is clearly evident, as the green LED of the Fasst RX stays green all the time.
Guys, please understand that manufacturers rig videos all the time to get your money.

[Woketman]

Can the fan-boys either just shut up or show the mythical Boeing data????

[Julez]

I, for one, would already be content with the antenna patent number...

[jonkoppisch]

WOW!!!

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=9507994

"Hey guys, I lost another plane today to my 2.4ghz XPS system. That makes 5 planes lost to receiver lockout. I can only give a receiver so much power before I start to think there's maybe something else wrong with my XPS system than low voltage issues on the receiver, which is what they tell me I'm doing wrong each time I email them and complain."

[Woketman]

Good point Julez, let's see the patent number and the Boeing data and we'll say we were wrong. Should be very simple, right?

[skubacb]

I find it very, very difficult to believe that Jon is flying with XPS after all the posts he has made about how terrible it is and how he would never fly it again. Just can't find it credible.

Well, why not go to the source for the antenna info. Oh, that is not JD so you can't complain about him.

Gosh, W. It was only stated two years ago that the Boeing guys looked at it unofficially. So there you go again, asking for something everyone has already told you is not available. Seems like you are a little slow on that so I will repeat. The Boeing guys said they would not make the data available. Go ask them if you want it so badly. However, JD has provided proof of what he said his system would do. The other items such as antenna pattern are from another company so go complain to XBee if you don't like what they claim.

I really don't care which system is best. I just think it is baloney to keep questioning either something that has been proved or to keep asking for things that are out of XPS's control. It is really dumb to keep asking the wrong person for information or data they do not control.

[Woketman]

The Boeing data is apparently "unavailable" because it likely NEVER existed!!! DUH!!!!

Just more XPS BS!

[4*60]

Jon is quoting someone else who lost 5 planes to XPS, not himself. Now there is someone who needs to wake up. 5 models!?

Myself? I'll just continue to use XPS and a 9C and also my new Hitec Aurora 9 and I would use my successful Spektrum equipment but I did sell it. Funny how I only got shot down with 72 and only once but never with any of the 2.4
I guess because the guy on 72 actually turned on by mistake when I was flying but the 2.4 stuff works for me the way it was designed.

I am also waiting to try a Kiwi 2.4.

[Julez]

	Quote: Originally Posted by skubacb
	[]Well, why not go to the source for the antenna info. Oh, that is not JD so you can't complain about him.[]

Well, JD is in fact the only source of this claim. All Maxtream representatives I communicated with told me, that the Xbee antennas were standard groundplane monopoles, nothing out of the ordinary.
My eMails to Maxtream, and now Digi, concerning any possible antenna patents, remained unanswered.
This makes JD the only one ever claiming that there was an antenna patent granted for his stuff.

So, skubacb, would it not be nice if you could prove all the naggers wrong by providing the patent number?
All you have to do is to ask ist JD. I mean, you have defended XPS so brave throught all these years, so he should really do you this favor, right?

[jonkoppisch]

	Quote: Originally Posted by skubacb
	I find it very, very difficult to believe that Jon is flying with XPS after all the posts he has made about how terrible it is and how he would never fly it again. Just can't find it credible.

Nope! I was smart enough to dump it after 1 big loss... NO WAY i was in for 5