Denver area 3D'ers

[tec]

	Quote: Originally Posted by AHP
	I tried both a 32x10 (which I normally ran) and a 30x10. The plane flew better with the 30x10 but was pretty worthless for 3D as it just didn't produce the thrust I needed. A lot depends on what your plane weighs, though. My Edge was pushing 41lbs and in the summer months, it wouldn't even hover unless I burned off most of the gas. Earlier in the year, when it was still in the 40-50's, it would hover and pullout, but very slowly. I was going to try a Vess 32A but a couple of guys at the field said they didn't work well at altitude. I'm not sure if there's much of any truth to that, though. I ended up giving up on flying the 40% once the summer months hit. I started flying a 31% Extra with a ZDZ80 (20lbs) and it was absolutely ballistic, even in the altitude and heat.

How do you think Our Cardens would fly with a ZDZ 160 Super or a ZDZ 210? Mine is 40-41 lbs too.

I'm looking at Getting back into the 33% with a DA 85, I had a H9 cap this fall with a 85, it was ballistic at 23lbs built stock. The new Sukhoi at 19.5-20 lbs would be awesome here.

[sscherin]

I've flown at Mile Hi and Chatfield..

My big complaint with Chatfield right now is they have all but closed the main east-west runway except for days with an extreme crosswind on the N-S runway..
I prefer to fly in the early mornings and that puts the sun right in your face on the N-S runway..

The state built a new campground just off the west end of the runway and you can not over fly that area..


Chatfield does have a covered seating area but it's outside the pits. There is no cover in the pits.

Mile-Hi has covered areas in the pits and 2 covered work tables.. not big enough for a 30% plane but it's there.
We also have a covered radio impound.. Something Chatfield lacks.

Pics of the filed can be found in the Gallery
http://www.milehirc.com/Ridge%20View...w_Day_2007.htm

My big issue at Mile-Hi? Golpher holes! there are some nasty ones off the east end of the runway.

Bot fields have their pro's and cons.. All I can say is fly both and pick your favorite.

Denver area Club Sites
http://www.milehirc.com/
http://www.crosswindsrc.com/
http://www.denverrceagles.org/ (Cherry Creek State Park)
http://www.jefcoaeromodlers.org/ (Chatfield State park)
http://www.arvadamodelers.com/

[AHP]

I'm pretty sure the ZDZ 210 is about 2lbs heavier bare, if not more, and the standard mufflers it uses are huge and probably pretty heavy as well. I think it would be too much weight and I really don't think it fit inside the cowl without some serious hacking. It's too bad because the 210 is an absolute beast. A buddy of mine has one ripping a 34x14 in a 50lb+ TOC Yak and it flies it like an overpowered foamy. I debated the same thing when I was out there and was pretty well sold on a Kroma 180 (about 8-9oz's heavier than a 150). I was leaning toward a 3W 170CS but the $600 difference swayed that decision pretty easily. I ended up not doing either, but If I had to make a decision, it would be the 180 for brut HP bang for the buck. I have never heard a bad/negative thing about it. If you wanted to go the light weight route, the ZDZ 160 is a good option. I never considered it because my Edge was already too tailheavy with the 150 and the RX batteries in the engine box so the 160 would have made it worse.

RE: Chatfield, There were several occasions where I used the E/W runway. Unless they changed it in the last 6 months, it was open whenever the wind direction necessitated it. The campground is wayyyy out there and even flying a 40%, I was never concerned about flying over it. I actually strongly preferred the N/S runway, but I always flew in the afternoons and evenings.

I'd stay away from Cherry Creek if you're flying giant scale. I went there one time when Chatfield was closed and I was not impressed with the facilities. The pit area and the entrance out to the runway is not suited for giant scale and the runways are very small. The field sorta sits on the top of a hill and the layout is just odd, IMO.

[tec]

I'll have to look at the 210 again, I thought it was around 9lbs? Chatfield sounds like it's going to work the best, I'll check them all out tho. I'm still might drive up to Fort Collins once and a while to visit some of my friends that fly heli's out a love-air. I guess there is always the sod farm too? Thanks guys.

[sscherin]

Well That's what I was told by one of the Jefco instructors when I was checking out the club in August.
I checked Google Earth.. the Campground is 1,000 feet off the end of the EW runway.. Not to bad.