MORE ABOUT GAS...

[Boulder]

I'm sure most of you know this, but with the gas prices going up all the time, I thought I'd share this info.

Keep in mind, I received this in an e-mail, I'm not the author.

----- I don't know what you guys are paying for gasoline.... but here in California we are also paying higher, up to $3.50 per gallon. But my line of work is in petroleum for about 31 years now, so here are some tricks to get more of your money's worth for every gallon.


Here at the Kinder Morgan Pipeline where I work in San Jose, CA we deliver about 4 million gallons in a 24-hour period thru the pipeline. One day is diesel the next day is jet fuel, and gasoline, regular and premium grades. We have 34-storage tanks here with a total capacity of 16,800,000 gallons.



Only buy or fill up your car or truck in the early morning when the ground temperature is still cold. Remember that all service stations have their storage tanks buried below ground. The colder the ground the more dense the gasoline, when it gets warmer gasoline expands, so buying in the afternoon or in the evening....your gallon is not exactly a gallon. In the petroleum business, the specific gravity and the temperature of the gasoline, diesel and jet fuel, ethanol and other petroleum products plays an important role.



A 1-degree rise in temperature is a big deal for this business. But the service stations do not have temperature compensation at the pumps.



When you're filling up do not squeeze the trigger of the nozzle to a fast mode. If you look you will see that the trigger has three (3) stages: low, middle, and high. In slow mode you should be pumping on low speed, thereby minimizing the vapors that are created while you are pumping. All hoses at the pump have a vapor return. If you are pumping on the fast rate, some of the liquid that goes to your tank becomes vapor. Those vapors are being sucked up and back into the underground storage tank so you're getting less worth for your money.



One of the most important tips is to fill up when your gas tank is HALF FULL or HALF EMPTY. The reason for this is, the more gas you have in your tank the less air occupying its empty space. Gasoline evaporates faster than you can imagine. Gasoline storage tanks have an internal floating roof. This roof serves as zero clearance between the gas and the atmosphere, so it minimizes the evaporation. Unlike service stations, here where I work, every truck that we load is temperature compensated so that every gallon is actually the exact amount.



Another reminder, if there is a gasoline truck pumping into the storage tanks when you stop to buy gas, DO NOT fill up--most likely the gasoline is being stirred up as the gas is being delivered, and you might pick up some of the dirt that normally settles on the bottom. Hope this will help you get the most value for your money.



DO SHARE THESE TIPS WITH OTHERS!



WHERE TO BUY USA GAS, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW. READ ON



Gas rationing in the 80's worked even though we grumbled about it. It might even be good for us! The Saudis are boycotting American goods. We should return the favor. An interesting thought is to boycott their GAS.



Every time you fill up the car, you can avoid putting more money into the coffers of Saudi Arabia. Just buy from gas companies that don't import their oil from the Saudis.

Nothing is more frustrating than the feeling that every time I fill-up the tank, I am sending my money to people who are trying to kill me, my family, and my friends.



I thought it might be interesting for you to know which oil companies are the best to buy gas from and which major companies import Middle Eastern oil.



These companies import Middle Eastern oil:



Shell........................... 205,742,000 barrels

Chevron/Texaco......... 144,332,000 barrels

Exxon /Mobil............... 130,082,000 barrels

Marathon/Speedway... 117,740,000 barrels

Amoco............................62,231,000 barrels



Citgo gas is from South America, from a Dictator who hates Americans. If you do the math at $30/barrel, these imports amount to over $18 BILLION! (oil is now $90 - $100 a barrel)



Here are some large companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil:




Sunoco..................0 barrels


Conoco..................0 barrels

Sinclair.................0 barrels

BP/Phillips............0 barrels

Hess.......................0 barrels

ARCO....................0 barrels

If you go to Sunoco.com, you will get a list of the station locations near you.



All of this information is available from the Department of Energy and each is required to state where they get their oil and how much they are importing.

[HuckinChikn]

Dude, that is some of the best information about gas that i've heard yet!
Thank you for sharing with all of us! I never thought about how fast fuel
evaporates...Thank you agian boulder!

[btomlinson]

What sucks about the whole situation is were getting stuck by our own. Its not OPEC's fault, its these money hungry CEO's.. There is NO shortage of gas or oil. This whole fiasco is driven by one thing GREED.. To bad our government ( both rep. or dem.) doesn't have the backbone to put a end to this crap. I guess when you make billions a day profit there is plenty to go in washington's pockets.
If it was up to me they would get 1.50 for a gallon of regular, 1.00 for diesel. If you can cut it on that , close your doors..

[alec taylor]

and you think you are being ripped off. over here diesel $1,30 per ltr. plus road tax @3.3 cents a klm. for cars and light stuff. petrol arround $1.65 a ltr. tax built in. 1 nz$ buys .80 us. we are taxed so much to pay for all the "no hopers" that we have here. there will be a change of government here in a few months. but the taxes wont change. alex

[zoomer260]

Screw the evaporation I'm hunting for BP Staions !!! Squeezing every last cent from the purchase makes sense, but it makes better sense to buy domestic oil ! If everyone did that for just a month it would wake up some people.

But in all reality those stations would have to what ? IMport oil.

[why_fly_high]

It doesn't say domestic oil, it says does not buy oil from the middle East.

Dan

[Boulder]

	Quote: Originally Posted by why_fly_high
	It doesn't say domestic oil, it says does not buy oil from the middle East. Dan

Dan is correct.

If you guys want to know where our oil comes from and how much we import, give this a read.





http://dunner99.blogspot.com/2006/05...ca-import.html




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[RADRICH]

I guess the question now is ...why are the field production percentages dropping? Are we running out of oil here or are we just trying to burn up their oil supplies and saving ours for last? I have heard rumors about vast gas fields that are capped off...one of them being here in KY...and also that we have what has been dubbed "war reserve" oil fields that are also capped off. Any comment on this Boulder would be welcome. And thanks for those tipps. I already knew them but my woman just thought I was nuts and being anal. Now I have PROOF!!!!!!!!!! HAAAAHAAAAAHHAAAHAHAHAHA

[alec taylor]

up to $1. 80 now

[Dan_nO]

Diesel fuel is $3.99 a gallon here

[RADRICH]

Hey Dan no, Long time no see. Spring will be here soon...gotta see that boy of yours fly again here in E-town!! Maybe pull an allnighter. Gas in Bardstown was 3.17 .

[plaster93]

Its gonna be an expensive trip down to Joe Nall this year. Most of the gas stations up here have there holding tanks well below the frost line, so I don't think it gonna matter a whole lot temp. wise of when you buy your gas.

[Boulder]

	Quote: Originally Posted by plaster93
	Its gonna be an expensive trip down to Joe Nall this year. Most of the gas stations up here have there holding tanks well below the frost line, so I don't think it gonna matter a whole lot temp. wise of when you buy your gas.

Below frost line doesn't mean the ground temp doesn't change, only that it doesn't freeze at that depth. I was born and raised in Michigan, believe me, I'm very familiar with frost lines

[wttiger42]

If gas keeps going up , im gonna have to switch to glow fuel to save money.

[Wrench]

	Quote: Originally Posted by btomlinson
	What sucks about the whole situation is were getting stuck by our own. Its not OPEC's fault, its these money hungry CEO's.. There is NO shortage of gas or oil. This whole fiasco is driven by one thing GREED.. To bad our government ( both rep. or dem.) doesn't have the backbone to put a end to this crap. I guess when you make billions a day profit there is plenty to go in washington's pockets. If it was up to me they would get 1.50 for a gallon of regular, 1.00 for diesel. If you can cut it on that , close your doors..

I think you need to dig farther to understand what is driving up the prices. It isn't the big oil companies. It's higher demand. Future traders are another reason.

Those "Record Profits" you talk about go somewhere. They go into every day peoples investment, retirement,401k. A dirty little secret most don't understand.

You want the government to control the price of gas? Have you REALLY thought that through? Look at what Chavez is doing in South America. You make a widget, the government says you can only sell your widget for $5 each, yet your cost go over $5 each to make. What are you going to do at that point?