Problems!! 14MZ 2.4 R6014FS

[gregorycstitt]

1bwana1, thanks for the helpful insight and I agree. The sooner they find out what is wrong the better off we our. I am one of those individuals who lost signal between my 12FG and 6014 RX. I could careless about brands I have always been with Futaba and have no reason to go anywhere else. But, as of right now I am grounded and that sucks. I haven't flown in over two weeks and normally I fly every Friday and Sunday for approx. 7 hours a day. All three of my planes are 35% and two were built by a professional. My Python was the plane that lost signal and it to was built by a good friend of Quique's. The plane is Professionally built and the install is flawless. This plane is the only plane that has lost signal. But, it is also the only plane that has the receiver sitting on top, under the canopy, exposed to direct sunlite. I have extensively checked the voltage regulators which are all new Duralites. I have also checked the voltage coming out of the receiver and all were good. I am also running all new JR8611A servos. When I first lost signal I pulled the canopy and the first thing I said to my friend was, "feel how hot this receiver is," not really knowing what was going on. Obviously there is a problem somewhere and if Judge doesn't want to believe us or think we are liars whatever. I don't know who he is and honestly I could careless. He gets his **** for free and we don't. I just want a fix and soon. A will be patient for a few weeks and that's about it. I believe I will take your advise and hide the receiver but I will also keep track of the temp with my temp gun. Maybe then I will be able to fly for awhile. I believe in the slogan, "Shut up and fly." Kinda hard to do with my new FASST equipment. Probably should have stuck with 72 mgz 12Z.

[lazun]

I have had many of you PM me and I am glad there are many of you with the same problems. All different setups and installations. Not a coincidence. This is without question the RX's. Also, it is not isolated to only the 6014!!! It has been happening to the 7 and 8 channel ones as well. They have been failing in temps as low as 135 degrees from what some of you have said. We have not tested these ourselves.

You will not be able to keep it cool enough inside the fuselage during the summer. We tried. You will be defiantly taking a risk. For the guy that said he tried to fail the RX's and could not?! I believe he has the only two RX in the country that will not fail under these conditions. Let Futaba know what you are doing correct because we would like to get in the air ASAP!!! And I mean not my day job!!!

[Flyfalcons]

Kind of hypocritical of you to expect everyone to believe your results to be universal, then when someone else posts their results you say they are the exception.

[lazun]

We have done this personally to 33 RX with friends. Plus all the PM's I have gotten from others. Not being hypocritical.

[Simpleton]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Flyfalcons
	Kind of hypocritical of you to expect everyone to believe your results to be universal, then when someone else posts their results you say they are the exception.

I think the guy who had no problems is a team Futaba pilot. I'm NOT questioning his integrity, so don't go there. Maybe he has some hints or tricks he can share with the other guys.

And I don't see the difference between raising the temp of the RX with a heat gun, the sun, a flame thrower, or anything else.

P.S. My stuff is almost all Futaba, even servos. I'm looking at getting a FASST system, but I'd like to see all this shake out, first.

[Judge]

	Quote: Originally Posted by freya1
	Judge, nobody is trying to discredit Futaba, we fly futaba since I can remember and will continue to fly Futaba because I am sure they will find a solution.

I was speaking in generalities, not so much for this particular situation. I think people know what I mean. The Internet is amazing, but it can also turn ugly in a hurry.

[reyn3545]

I sincerely believe there is an issue out there, and for the benefit of everyone who's invested in the is new technology, I hope Futaba jumps on it with a solution quickly....

Having said that... unless there's something something substantive to add to this thread... can we back off of the rhetoric? I want to follow this thread, and like the rest of you, I want to hear about the solution as soon as its annonced.... but this getting to be a little much... even for a sarchastic old guy like me.

[Judge]

	Quote: Originally Posted by 1bwana1
	I don't think anyone is calling people who are reporting this problem liars. OK, maybe Judge is, but they pay him well in free "T" shirts to call you names. He must have a very large collection by now. Don't freak Malvey, I'm just kidding!

WOW, where'd that come from? At no time have I even hinted that these reports are not real. My point has been that Futaba needs time to determine if they can locate the source of the problem and determine a fix. People were getting a little impatient and my posts were to that point. I have no doubt people are seeing this. And I have no doubt that Futaba is working hard to resolve it.

	Quote:
	I hope people continue to experiment, and contribute their findings to this forum.

As do I, but in the end what will matter is what Futaba figures out.

[Judge]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Leardriver
	The way you make it sound it was completely recklace and basically has no merit.

Not my point at all. My point was that there have been several "tests" completed and reported and I cannot say that one is better than another. And again, the real test will be whatever Futaba does and how they decide to handle the situation.

[1bwana1]

Judge,
Geez! I was kidding, I even said so in the post. One of the posters said he didn't like being called a liar, you never called anyone a liar, I was just playing off of your signature line trying to inject a little levity into the thread. We must be able to laugh at ourselves.

[catman3070]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Judge
	WOW, where'd that come from? At no time have I even hinted that these reports are not real. My point has been that Futaba needs time to determine if they can locate the source of the problem and determine a fix. People were getting a little impatient and my posts were to that point. I have no doubt people are seeing this. And I have no doubt that Futaba is working hard to resolve it.

I think what gets most people going is when someone comes in with the gloves on to begin with. People are posting their findings and feelings on the matter and every time someone post a finding there seems to be a comment from a team member trying to discredit them. Now don't get me wrong I have always been Futaba and prefer Futaba radios over the other guys. I know that Futaba will come up with a solution for this issue, but in the meantime the people that really matter (all Futaba Fasst Owners) need to work through a solution.

Bill posted a nice reply stating what Futaba and Futaba Services are doing to resolve this issue. I am sure it hasn't just been put on someones desk to be forgotten about in a couple weeks. Once the solution has been determined I am sure they will take care of it in a timely manner.

So ask this of all those with Sponsored By Futaba in their signature line. Why not rather than try to discredit findings, help with a solution. By trying to discredit you just make individuals get defensive. This is a serious issue and as always I am sure can be overcome.

As for the one that said Tucson Shoot Out, I am more worried about Joe Nall. The only reason my planes have been switched over is for the NALL.

[3dubya]

what if you went at the module in your tranny with a heat gun would it do the same thing, pull module out get case up to same temps then plug it back into radio for hot test on it.

i understand fully that the processor chip has to do a hell of a lot more work in fasst system over old g3 and other brands 500 channel hopping with prevision, like anything electronic doing heaps more work will be in trouble faster with heat. So if module has similar job does it not like heat too.

[reyn3545]

	Quote: Originally Posted by catman3070
	As for the one that said Tucson Shoot Out, I am more worried about Joe Nall. The only reason my planes of been switched overs is for the NALL.

I hear ya, brotha.. I'm probably taking the short drive up I-85 also, and don't want to be the cause or the victim of what folks are describing here... but I was making reference to the fact that even in October, the temps in Tucson can be over 100 degrees!!

Hopefully things won't change down here that mucn in the next 2 weeks.

[3dubya]

easy fix for tuscon set up low volt fan over hardworking 500 channel jumping prevision processor in receiver like you would with any pc, get volts from spare channel



and this unit for pilot

[Leardriver]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Judge
	Not my point at all. My point was that there have been several "tests" completed and reported and I cannot say that one is better than another. And again, the real test will be whatever Futaba does and how they decide to handle the situation.

Fair enough. I completely agree as they are the only ones that can actually come up with a solution. Hopefully it will turn out to be an easy one.