what do you guys think?

[yellowman2513]

Hey i was looking at getting a hobbyzone supercub, because it is very appealing to me. I was looking at getting it because i think it would be a good plane to practice with after taking lessons. I thinnk it would be good so i dont jump to an expensive plane and crash it. I think this plane is good, and all of the videos and the reviews of it are pretty good. Plus, it looks like you can modify it a lot. Well i would love feedback on what you guys think about it, and what you have heard about it. Thanks a lot guys.

[jaguar bone]

	Quote: Originally Posted by yellowman2513
	Hey i was looking at getting a hobbyzone supercub, because it is very appealing to me. I was looking at getting it because i think it would be a good plane to practice with after taking lessons. I thinnk it would be good so i dont jump to an expensive plane and crash it. I think this plane is good, and all of the videos and the reviews of it are pretty good. Plus, it looks like you can modify it a lot. Well i would love feedback on what you guys think about it, and what you have heard about it. Thanks a lot guys.

I think if you are going to be dependent on A someone to help you solo ( via Buddy-box) - discuss it and come to terms on your selection with that person. Best you both agree on the plane so if and when the going gets rough- the choice issue is not an ob-stacle to the solution. Know what I'm saying??

If you are planning on doing it without a buddy - or buddy-box, by a real cheap model and ARC - and I don't mean "cover".

Seriously - the larger the wingspan you can afford - the better IMO. Best of luck too!

[yellowman2513]

ok, ill take your advice on discussing it with the person i will be taking lessons with. That does make more sense. Thanks a lot for your advice.

	Quote: Originally Posted by jaguar bone
	I think if you are going to be dependent on A someone to help you solo ( via Buddy-box) - discuss it and come to terms on your selection with that person. Best you both agree on the plane so if and when the going gets rough- the choice issue is not an ob-stacle to the solution. Know what I'm saying?? If you are planning on doing it without a buddy - or buddy-box, by a real cheap model and ARC - and I don't mean "cover". Seriously - the larger the wingspan you can afford - the better IMO. Best of luck too!

[Howard Mathis]

Yellowman have you thought about possibly buying a used model a train with? Your investment would only be about half as much as a new plane and if something unfortunate would happen you wouldnt be loosing your pride and joy. this is only a suggestion and I hope every thing goes well with your flight training reguardless of what you decide to do.
Good luck and fly high !

[yellowman2513]

Hey, actually i am going to be taking lessons, and then just moveup to a better plane. I was going to get that, just to fly with to get the basics down, but i think i should go the smart way, and take lessons. Then after that, i was looking at possibly a Piper cub. I was also looking at these other two racers, that are awesome. I was them at the park yesterday. Look at the cosmic wind minnow by great planes. It has high wings, and it is very nice looking. Thanks

	Quote: Originally Posted by Howard Mathis
	Yellowman have you thought about possibly buying a used model a train with? Your investment would only be about half as much as a new plane and if something unfortunate would happen you wouldnt be loosing your pride and joy. this is only a suggestion and I hope every thing goes well with your flight training reguardless of what you decide to do. Good luck and fly high !

[jaguar bone]

	Quote: Originally Posted by yellowman2513
	Hey, actually i am going to be taking lessons, and then just moveup to a better plane. I was going to get that, just to fly with to get the basics down, but i think i should go the smart way, and take lessons. Then after that, i was looking at possibly a Piper cub. I was also looking at these other two racers, that are awesome. I was them at the park yesterday. Look at the cosmic wind minnow by great planes. It has high wings, and it is very nice looking. Thanks

Trust me yellowman - lessons - - ain't optional. If you can't afford a buddy box, hopefully the club has one you can use. It really is best if you can show up to the field - with all that is needed and not depending on someone else for anything. What took me so long to solo was the amount of time spent at the airfield NOT FLYING! Keep you eyes open for alternate teachers too. It took me 6 mos to solo but get this now- that was only ONE gallon of fuel.

Need to get your AMA insurance too just incase someone were to get hurt. Took me 25 years but I got messed up in a strangers prop 5 years ago. All I can say is AMA is a top notch organization.

[yellowman2513]

alright. I was talking to this one man and he said that he would train me. And all i need to bring is myself. He has everyithing. And its free! He also said i wouldnt need an ama card yet. Thanks for the great suggestions.

[jaguar bone]

	Quote: Originally Posted by yellowman2513
	alright. I was talking to this one man and he said that he would train me. And all i need to bring is myself. He has everyithing. And its free! He also said i wouldnt need an ama card yet. Thanks for the great suggestions.

What a great hobby ( and guy!)
Best of luck to you!

[yellowman2513]

thanks

[Newto3DinAZ]

Super Cubs are great for putting around the park but I wouldn't depend on them as trainers. The pros: They fly like a dream with practicaly no effort, you can get a spare battery/charger on ebay for $20 and fly nearly nonstop as they take less than 30 min to recharge, and durability wise you can cream the ground at wide open throttle and suffer only a broken prop ($3 part). The cons: No aileron control makes these a true circle jerk plane, underpowered for such a lightweight model so semi-breezy days are out, and the ACT feature is worthless (will cut the engine in hard banks, steep climbs, etc.) I would suggest something a bit more in line to what you want to fly in the future. Electristars are great out of the box trainers (.40 size all balsa construction but clean electric power) easy to fly, quite stable, and come with everything you need minus the flight batteries for $200. Just be sure to power the plane with Li-po packs...3lbs of NiMH batteries they sell as flight packs for the model really dog the plane down.

[Xpress..]

^Dude. Think of it as this way. A beginner can't learn on all four controlls right away. That is why many trainers come as 3 channel planes. They make training easy to do, and once they're ready, they can step up to aileron control.

Also, I've noticed in many many cases that a trainer ends up holding the aileron stick and the plane rolls over, pitches towards the ground, and explodes in a big bomb of wood/foam. 99% of beginners aren't ready to fly a plane that can roll.

My suggestion is a Multiplex Easy Star. Loves the winds, flies great on dirt cheap 6-7 cell NiXX batteries (even those ones you get from the walmart toys work great), nearly indestructible, and if it does break, it can easily be glued back together with regular CA. No fancy foam safe stuff needed. Plus you can buy a set of Easy Glider wings, and pop them right into place for an instant aileron/glider upgrade. Longer wings=easy flying. Glides forever with stock wings though, so that is a bit of a disadvantage. But makes for great, slow landings, and can make you a landing ace in no time. Gives you time to setup for a good touchdown.

I've flown them into lights, the street, cars, a tree now, and even into bushes. They came out with nothing more than some small dings, and nicks here and there. Got right back into the air with a simple and easy toss. Plus, when you do launch it, it goes nice and straight for as long as you want, so it gives you time to put your hands back onto the sticks.

[smokin]

ok, here's the deal....

if you are actually planning on spending some decent time in/on this hobby, do yourself a favor and buy a 4 channel plane to train on! i have seen so many guys learn with no left thumb (other than throttle) and really limit their abilities. learn it all the RIGHT way and then you won't have to retrain yourself on the basics! there are a lot of great traiers out there that can be fun to fly long after you have control of the basics.... i do agree with "bone" on the bigger the better point. the bigger planes are just more "feel"able. they seem to react more to the input and less to the surrounding conditions. more of a "true" feeling if you will.

with that said, the buddy box will save your plane for you! you can be less affraid to invest a little more to have a better all around setup. so many folks buy really inexpensive (cheap) planes to learn on and get so discouraged with how they fly! i am one of the trainers here at our club and i tell ya what, some of these cheap trainers are WAY more difficult to fly than they need to be. consult the leaders of the club you are a part of and i bet, i just bet, someone has a great bird they'd sell ya right there! good luck and stay with it.... remember rome wasn't built in a day!

[Xpress..]

Easy Star performs much like a bigger plane, and can easily become a 4 channel plane with 0, count em, 0 modifications. Zip, zilch, nada.

I trained on a 3 channel plane, and I got my wings on it. Now look where I am 6 years later. A 3D pilot that knows almost everything there is to know about foamies. In 6 planes, in almost 6 months, I've trained my thumbs to do anything.

[Unterhausen]

Get a simulator and fly it over and over again until you understand orientation as second nature. FMS is free, and it works for that. Something like Realflight or any of the other commercial sims are worth every penny, around $200. There are people that learned on sims that have gone straight to 3d without any trainers, although those people are rare.
But at least you can start out flying with a plane you like better and waste less money. A sim will be a worthwhile investment at any skill level.

[e-gull]

If the instructor has the plane he wants to use to teach, then use that. The next model may depend on the instructors model. Depends on the number of channels, size, your preferences, and budget. Just look around at that time and see the choices and hopefully see the planes fly at the field if not in a video. Take your time and be sure it is the right one for you. Nothing worse than find out a day later that you make the wrong choice. I saw a slow stick fly at the park and knew I wanted one as a trainer and modified to use as my intermediate 4 channel plane. Later I saw a Fancy Foam Edge fly 3D and knew I wanted one as my 3D trainer. It really helps to see the plane perform.