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Old 06-17-2008, 10:51 PM   #1
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Default MLD-28 gasoline engine 28cc

Hi Guys,
I am starting this thread so that it will be easier to find and track. We are introducing a new 28cc engine with very good numbers. So far this 28cc engine is performing very well in every aspect. We'll be releasing this later this week. You can probably poke around at Flying Giants for product annoucement soon.

Basic data
28cc displacement
2.8 horsepower
Engine + Carburetor: 30 oz or 1.90 pounds
Engine + Side Muffler: 33 oz or 2.05 pounds
Gross Weight: 37 oz or 2.30 pounds (includes electronic ignition with auto advance)
Engine is made in China, but fully serviced in USA. It is MLD-28. Here are some numbers after 30min of running;

Wood Prop with side muffler
16 x 6* 9,000 RPM
16 x 8 8,600 RPM
17 x 7 8,100 RPM
17 x 8 7,900 RPM
18 x 8 7,000 RPM
APC Prop with side muffler
15 x 8 9,500 RPM
15 x 10 9,050 RPM
16 x 8 8,800 RPM
17 x 6 8,800 RPM
17 x 8 8,100 RPM
18 x 8 7,800 RPM

Here are a couople pics, let me know what kind of info you guys need. www.mldengines.com will be up soon for some basic information early next week. Cermark will have a very limited number of these engines available.

Peace,
Steven Chao,
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Old 06-18-2008, 07:20 AM   #2
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Default Re: MLD-28 gasoline engine 28cc

Very nice , what is the expected price of this engine?

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Old 06-18-2008, 11:24 AM   #3
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price helps me make the move

do you all have a header for this beast?
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Old 06-18-2008, 08:06 PM   #4
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You guys are killing me...

This will be moved into the Manufacturer's forum, just like all advertising that I run across...

I've said this before...most of us Mods have real jobs, we can't sit on here and surf all day.
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Old 06-19-2008, 03:49 PM   #5
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Default Re: MLD-28 gasoline engine 28cc

My bad on posting in the wrong place. Jeff was cool in moving it to the right place. The engine includes everything from electronic (auto advance) ignition, mounts, template, wrench, side muffler and hardware. The MLD-28 (MLD28) is a gas engine designed to rival that of OS FX160 (160FX) and FS200 (FS-200U), but at with a street price, $299.99.

Conceptual requirements behind MLD-28 (I believe we reached most if not all);
(1) Improve fuel cost
(2) Easier cleanup
(3) Push 3D performance envelope
(4) Increase power to weight ratio
(5) Turn lager diameter prop
(6) Maintain vibration expectations
(7) User/start friendly
(8) Retain high RPM capability
(9) Price friendly

The airplanes that MLD-28 was designed around;
Aeroworks 80" Profile Extra
Aeroworks 72" Yak54 QB
CA Models (Aeroworks) Genesis
Cermark / Topgun Spitfire
Cermark Scale Series 70" - Edge 540
Cermark Scale Series 70" - Extra 260
Cermark Scale Series 70" - Yak 54
DPM Extra 330L
DPM (Dave Patrick Models) Piper PA-18 Super Cub
DPM Piper PA-18 Clipped Wing Super Cub
Extreme Flight, 74" Yak-54 1.60
Hangar9 1/4 Scale J-3 Cub ARF
Hangar9 P-51D Mustang 150
Hangar9 P-47D Thunderbolt 150
Pacific Aeromodel Clipped Wing MonoCoupe
Pacific Aeromodel Gee Bee Y 84"
QQ 73 in. YAK-54

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Old 06-20-2008, 02:08 PM   #6
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Old 06-20-2008, 04:37 PM   #7
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$300 is a good price, that's what they cost from at least one Chinese box-dropper.

I just dislike side-draft piston-port engines because of the issues they sometimes have with turbulence inside the cowl or the way you sometimes have to ugly-up your cowl to fit them in.
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Old 06-27-2008, 10:30 AM   #8
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www.mldEngines.com is now up.

For sales or additional information, please contact your favorite hobby store or local distibutor;
Australia: www.austars-model.com
Canada: Cermark (562) 906-0808
England: CML +44 (0)1527 575349
USA: Cermark (562) 906-0808 or (800) 704-6229

MLD-28S or MLD28S or MLD28 comes as side mount muffler version. It is now available. The "R" or MLD-28R or MLD28R will be available in July. The R version is the rear muffler mount version.

Additional information:
MLD-28S is not a SPE-28. In fact there is no SPE-28. As of today;
MLD => MLD-28S
SPE => SPE-26, SPE-43 and SPE-40 has been discontinued, but still serviced as of May 2008. SPE-43 is the official replacement (parts are not fully interchangeable) for SPE-40.


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Old 07-12-2008, 01:14 AM   #9
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Here is video that we put together with Cermark's new Scale Series 70 EDGE 540 with a new MLD-28S engine. The video is a composition of the 1st 3 flight of the airplane with a brand new (not broken-in) MLD28 or 28cc gasoline engine.

Here is the link:
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Old 11-05-2008, 10:40 PM   #10
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MLD-28S (USA version) is now available at your local hobby stores. Ask for them by name, if you have any issue, please contact us here at Cermark.

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Old 11-14-2008, 08:54 PM   #11
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Default Re: MLD-28 gasoline engine 28cc

Steven,

I hope the MLD28 has more output than the SPE26. I'm running a SPE26 in a 70" Cermark Edge 540 and would have to say the performance is boarderline disappointing. I"m located in Canada and at our altitude this engine is not very well received around here due to it's inability to turn a 18 "or 17" prop at a productive RPM.

I hope the ignition on MLD has been reworked as well, because I went through two on my SPE26 before my plane even got off the ground, and am now using a RCEXL ignition.

In the promo video, you will notice there are never extended shots of this plane pulling any long vertical uplines, it doesn't have the jam to do it.

Food for thought.................

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I have yet to see one, one being in the small gassers in the under 30cc range that runs like a bat from hum unless the plane is around 9 lbs or less for most flyers needs
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Flyer88, I also have the Cermark 70" Edge but I have the MLD28 and I have a friend with the SPE26 and I can tell you there is a considerable amount of difference in the power. Both our planes weigh 10 lbs or just a hair over. His will just barely hover the plane at full power. My MLD28 will hover and half power and has very good pull out. I also have the Cermark 70" Yak with a OS120AX and I love it, but the MLD28 is diffinately stronger.
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Old 01-30-2009, 12:46 AM   #14
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Bluehawkbm, thanks for the info. I've been thinking of grabbing one due to the fact it bolts directly up to the 26 mount, and I won't have to do anymore cutting to my cowl. Thanks for the update. I'll wait for them to arrive at my LHS.

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i have a mld28 installed on my aeroworks yak. just got it running this weekend and put about 30oz of fuel through it breaking it in. so far the numbers seem pretty good to me running a xoar 18/6 getting just over 8000 rpm and 17lbs of thrust. using for break in sthil oil at 32:1 and running rich.
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