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Old 07-04-2008, 06:11 PM   #1
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Default Turbine jet crash in Taiwan

ok this is not my crash, but it's all over the news in Taiwan and I thought it's an interesting story to share...

On July 3, a turbine powered Rafael jet crashed into an apartment complex in Taiwan, resulted in a fire that caused evacuation of all residents. The crash started a fire in the 28th floor which destroyed a whole unit. Cause of crash is unknown, as the pilot is a seasoned veteran. As a result, the pilot was detained for possible public safety charges, and one of the last two flying field was immediately closed by the government.

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http://www.nownews.com/2008/07/03/545-2299061.htm
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Old 07-04-2008, 07:45 PM   #2
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Most unfortunate.
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Old 07-04-2008, 08:06 PM   #3
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that has to stink you go to the field to do something that take your mind off all the bad stuff in your life and you loose a expensive jet and go to jail!! holy cow
I would hope to think that it would be different here in the states. after all that is why we have to have the AMA and stuff right. I mean come on its a accident
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Old 07-04-2008, 08:10 PM   #4
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Really stupid to fly jets that close to apartments. Just asking for trouble.
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Old 07-04-2008, 08:44 PM   #5
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Well it's not really the pilots the fault that the flying club's site is near highrise apartments. When the field was built years ago, the area weren't as developed as now. As result of this crash, the city immediately ordered bulldozer to take out the runway, and designate the area as no-fly zone. It's unfortunate for all RC'ers in the area since this is one of the last two RC field in all of Taiwan's capital Taipei.

The pilot has agreed to pay for all damages, including the burnt apartment, elevator system, and a BMW that was soaked in the basement when fire fighters flooded the place with water.

I wonder what his wife said...
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Old 07-04-2008, 08:49 PM   #6
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that has to stink you go to the field to do something that take your mind off all the bad stuff in your life and you loose a expensive jet and go to jail!! holy cow
I would hope to think that it would be different here in the states. after all that is why we have to have the AMA and stuff right. I mean come on its a accident
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You know I was just discussing this with a buddy. If God forbid some idiot crashed his turbine jet into a house in the US and burned the place down, it would be all over the news. And with all the security precautions in place post 911, I think the politicians would pressure a ban for all turbine RC models, or RC models in general! I don't think it's just about the monetary liability anymore. If that happens, AMA better have some great lawyers because frankly, I don't think they would be able to save this hobby.
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Old 07-04-2008, 09:13 PM   #7
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You may be more correct than you imagine.
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Old 07-04-2008, 10:03 PM   #8
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I have watched that 5 times and I still have no idea what the hell she is takin about.
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You know I was just discussing this with a buddy. If God forbid some idiot crashed his turbine jet into a house in the US and burned the place down, it would be all over the news. And with all the security precautions in place post 911, I think the politicians would pressure a ban for all turbine RC models, or RC models in general! I don't think it's just about the monetary liability anymore. If that happens, AMA better have some great lawyers because frankly, I don't think they would be able to save this hobby.

I worry that the Fed's see this news report and then act on it.
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Old 07-04-2008, 10:34 PM   #10
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I have to believe that the computerized news parsers will catch it. It will show up on some body's desk for evaluation. The feds are very much aware of the potential for misusing the technology in our hobby.
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Old 07-04-2008, 11:19 PM   #11
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Wow. Perhaps rubber band power is not so bad after all.
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Old 07-04-2008, 11:58 PM   #12
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Don't fret, the US gov't won't act until after something like this happens in the US. When have you known our government to be proactive about anything?
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Old 07-05-2008, 01:05 AM   #13
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Default Re: Turbine jet crash in Taiwan

I understand that in Japan there may not be much open land for flying; and that the flying field in question was established prior to the development around it......but I don't understand why anyone would fly a turbine airplane (or 30-40% gas for that matter) that close to all that development. It's just not a good decision to do that even if it was "approved". Somewhere there has to be some common sense.

This sort of thing concerns me. I can see public opinion of us change overnight, with resulting regulations, if there was an accident like this in the states. It could have been worse; at least no injuries or fatalities.

I remember about 25 years or so ago a spectator was killed durring a demonstration gone bad inside a football stadium. Did the pilot have authorization for this demo? Yes. Was it a smart thing to have the demo? NO.

In the end if we want to continue flying without the FAA or some other government agency breathing down our backs we better police ourselves, and exercise some common sense.

That would be my 2 Cents....

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Here's a report that's a little more English-friendly

http://www.chinapost.com.tw/taiwan/l...ix-injured.htm
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I'd hate to get the bill for that wreck!!!! Especially as he's paying for the building etc... Since he's an experienced pilot, I would think that he had some kind of airframe/radio failure. Has he said anything about what failed and/or what radio system etc?
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