123 inch Extreme Flight Extra 300 !!!!!! SWEEEET

[STLAV8R]

	Quote: Originally Posted by JVDO
	I have only 30 flights on this airplane and I love it! It's the best IMAC plane I flew to date!

How does it 3-D?

[wmat7039]

	Quote: Originally Posted by JVDO
	I have only 30 flights on this airplane and I love it! It's the best IMAC plane I flew to date!

Hey Jens... I HAVE to agree with you regarding the flight characteristics of this 123" Extra. I can't answer for the 3D guys though as my plane is not set up for 3D.

It was great meeting you up at the Joe Nall last week. I came back to Atlanta and have been flying for the last 2 days & will go back out again today. I was supposed to attend an IMAC contest 4 weeks ago, but everyone else in Unlimited "chickened out" so I did not do the 7 hour drive to fly by myself. I will be going to Tuscaloosa Alabama next week for it's maiden IMAC contest..... she now has 70 flights on her & is doing very well.

Here is the latest shot with graphics...
Wayne

[javierkc]

	Quote: Originally Posted by 3d-dave
	yeah. but a light 40% around the 37 range on tuned pipes wouldent be to bad with the 116. it does make the power of a 150 on tuned pipes... and do you know what lengh of header your useing? and the weight of the hole plane? i would put this motor in a 35% but it seems just to heavy, the 110 yak isent so bad because its bigger then most 100cc. soo im kinda looking for something inbetween a 35% and a 40%.

Weighted the plane today with a bathroom scale (really I dont know how accurate can be but its the only thing I had to weight the plane) It came out at 29.6 lbs ready to flight except gas. The setup is as follows:

Evolution 116cc
Es Composite tuned pipes
CF Spinner
Mezlik 30x10
Hitec HS-7955's all around (two on rudder)
Smartfly EQ6
2 fromeco 7.4v Lions
1 three cel 11.1V lipo for the ignition

I guess that with a DA-100 or DA-120 it should be around the 28 to 28.5 lbs

[Jkoch713]

	Quote: Originally Posted by 3d-dave
	yeah. but a light 40% around the 37 range on tuned pipes wouldent be to bad with the 116. it does make the power of a 150 on tuned pipes... and do you know what lengh of header your useing? and the weight of the hole plane? i would put this motor in a 35% but it seems just to heavy, the 110 yak isent so bad because its bigger then most 100cc. soo im kinda looking for something inbetween a 35% and a 40%.

Have you taken a look at the Bill Hemple yak yet???
170cc: 118” wing span $1400.00
.Flying weight of 34.3 pounds! WOW!

Bill ran it with a 3w170...on mufflers... THe power was INSANE!!!!
and that is what the weight was at..

Very nice aircraft...Sold out though...

[Jkoch713]

	Quote: Originally Posted by rdgood
	Ok just to put this into perspective...

	Quote: Originally Posted by rdgood
	Is this the airplane that one can never order on their website??? This thread was started in July of 2008 and still it is not a standard item on their website?? I mean - I can be patient and all but its coming up on 2 year mark. It seems that the smaller electrics are getting more attention - but hey they are available. Gotta be a better way - Ronster

Looks like EF sells out ALL THERE AIRCRAFTS all the time...
Not many can do such a thing.....in this economy?...must be making nice planes....

Bill Hemple is close... but has a huge overhead, and has VERY expensive aircrafts so it isn’t
Quite the same....
When you start to get a bit uneasy, about not having this plane out ....just think of it this way...

What manufacture that you know of lets up know about a prototype, and a plane that is coming out years prior to release??? Not many at all....
Only one I can think of is H9 and THE BEAST....

If you didn't have the aircraft info from EF, you wouldn't even know that this was set to come out??!!

You should have logged into the 2M Vanquish forums...WOW...now that was some really heated discussion about release dates and such.... Totally unnecessary. I tried to do Simple information
post, and the flamers jammed in and got EF's attention....
EF didn't like the bad press and the forum didn't like the bad language, and it was placed in LOCK DOWN....

Topflite just let the public know about their giant p-40 ARF.... It took 2-years of prototypes and
Factory changes before they even could set up a release date...

All the MFG's are the same....

Just don't log onto the FG and the forums about EF planes, and you will not have to stress about it...

Plenty of great aircrafts out there for you to buy....
3Dhobby has a great 150cc slick 540..
The list goes on...and on and on...

I even fell into latest greatest poster trap, and had the " Have to Have it" mentality.....
One needs to put things into perspective...

It is like Aero works.... They, for a while, had the public opinion of the "greatest aircrafts made"
And they get some planes out that had some issues with glue, and many turned on them...
Some of the same guys that said they were the best said they wouldn't get another plane from them...

H9 had the 85cc Sukhoi, and extra with wings that blew off and the 85cc Sukhoi was built so light that the plane rattled apart.... for the spec DA85 engine...
The M.M designed 85cc Sukhoi, was probly one of the greatest flying ARF's to date, but was just recently discontinued, due to the problems above....It the factory that usually causes these issues...From not enough glue, to using inferior adhesives...

There are Very few companies that can be the hero all the time...what goes up, usually goes down.....Can one blame EF for wanting to make sure things are right/??

Ohh man....I really ranted this time ...BlAhhh Blahhh blahhh blahhh

[mxcop]

Well the good thing is the 123" Extra is well into production and there are several people out there that already have them. There are three here in the states right now and there will be more in the very near future, the plane has already proven that it was well worth the wait.....

Lee

[John Blackwell]

JKOCH713,
you could not have said it any better. patience is a vertue.

[ditchit]

when building this kit make sure you get the aileron horns glued in the correct positions. i did not realise there were 3 different types. no build manual and EF won't send me new ailerons.

[Rocket Ron]

Wayne built the very first one and did an "in depth" buid on this forum. I can understand your frustration with glueing horns in the wrong place but it's not uncommon for assembly manuals to come along later. I built the Krill Katana a couple of yrs ago and I think they're still without a manual. Not that it will help now, but here's the link to Wayne's build if there's anyone else needing it.


http://www.flyinggiants.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=48835

[1bwana1]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Jkoch713
	Looks like EF sells out ALL THERE AIRCRAFTS all the time... Not many can do such a thing.....in this economy?...must be making nice planes.... Bill Hemple is close... but has a huge overhead, and has VERY expensive aircrafts so it isn’t Quite the same....

When you are right, you are right. EF makes some great planes, has great customer service, and a very loyal customer base. That is why they sell out. EF is one of a number of small companies that share a production company. Through trial and error, and getting ripped off, they have found a facility that can do work up to the standards they want. This was not an easy thing. Because they are so focused on quality, and share the capacity, they are not always able to control production schedules. Beleive me, like most businesses they would like to sell as much as they can. They are just not willing to give up quality to do it. I respect them for this, even if at times, I have had to wait longer than I would have liked.

When you are wrong, you are wrong. Bill Hemple does not have a huge overhead. In fact, his models are a side business for him. He has a full time job. He is basically a one man operation with very little overhead. Bill is one of the greatest guys you will ever meet in this hobby. His planes reflect his love for the hobby. They are unique in size, quality, and approach, reflecting his perspective, the time he puts into design, and the personal attention he gives to his customers. Bill's business can best be described as a "botique" ARF builder. I guess it is up to each of us to set our own definition of "expensive", but Bill's prices are not the result of a large organization with "huge overhead".

[wmat7039]

	Quote: Originally Posted by ditchit
	when building this kit make sure you get the aileron horns glued in the correct positions. i did not realise there were 3 different types. no build manual and EF won't send me new ailerons.

Hi ditchit....sorry that happened to you. You may have missed my assembly thread which was started at the end of November last year.....
I specifically mentioned the variance of the aileron horn lengths (holes at the top of the horn) as the mechanical difference has already been taken into consideration when the plans were being designed.

Take a look at this post in my assembly thread:
http://www.flyinggiants.com/forums/s...3&postcount=12
Wayne

[JVDO]

It's not a problem, just drill the correct holes in it with your dremel and you are ready to go...

[ditchit]

	Quote: Originally Posted by JVDO
	It's not a problem, just drill the correct holes in it with your dremel and you are ready to go...

Did that but with the horns already glued in its not easy to do. On a couple of horns the new holes don't align as well as they should. When you spend this kind of money you want it perfect. All EF have to do is put the different horns in separate bags or at least put a note in the kit. It's not obvious to someone who hasn't flown a multi-servo per aileron model before. Still . What bugs me is that EF won't even quote me a price for sending me new ailerons even though I think it is cr@p they don't put instructions in such an expensive kit.

[camss69]

Some peoples definition of "very soon" and my definition of "very soon" are apparently very different.

Don't get me wrong if they call me with a plane I'll still buy it but dang, how do you guys keep saying that?

Eventually you will be right and our definitions of very soon will be the same.

[ditchit]

Anyone else intending to go electric like me when they get one? I'm waiting for the Plettenberg Predator 37/6, Schulze 300A ESC and 14S11600 lipo.